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New York Times: “We Used to Think the Military Would Stand Up to Trump. We Were Wrong”

Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:14 pm
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:14 pm
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By ordering 800 National Guard troops to Washington, on the pretext of an illusory crime wave, President Trump has further dragged the U.S. military into domestic law enforcement, in a move credibly perceived as an ominous “test case.” This continues what the administration started in California in June as part of the its deportation efforts.
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Unfortunately, though we (and others) had hoped that the military would only respond to calls to action in American cities and states kicking and screaming, we no longer expect resistance from that institution.

Once, perhaps, traditionalist officers might have leaned on protocol and refused to heed a lawless order, taking inspiration from the generals — Mark Milley and James Mattis — who resisted the uprooting of established military standards in the first Trump term. But today, general officers no longer seem to see themselves as guardians of the constitutional order.

It now seems clear to us that the military will not rescue Americans from Mr. Trump’s misuse of the nation’s military capabilities. Recent changes to the terms of the military’s employment by the Pentagon and its members’ incentives to career advancement will ultimately overcome any constitutional and moral qualms about their conduct.

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It may be left to the Supreme Court to enforce constitutional discipline on the U.S. armed forces. Gov. Gavin Newsom of California’s lawsuit challenging Mr. Trump’s deployment of National Guard troops is working its way through the federal judicial system. The District Court initially ruled in California’s favor, but the Court of Appeals quickly ruled for the federal government.

But the Supreme Court, which has shown scant enthusiasm for curbing presidential power, could just as easily rule for the Trump administration. The military would be unlikely to challenge the president, and his power would become that much more entrenched. The last best hope may be a broadly applicable unanimous decision upholding the District Court’s ruling that even Mr. Trump would feel compelled to respect.


Lol we are reaching the point the media is admitting they want a coup to happen
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
12183 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:17 pm to
Horrible Leftists on that tabloid.
Posted by H newman
Member since Oct 2021
1974 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:18 pm to
They need to end their misery now and jump off the roof
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:21 pm to
Has he given any unlawful orders?
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4312 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:23 pm to
The President is the commander and chief of the military. Encouraging the military to "resist" him is basically endorsing a militarized coup of the rightfully elected government.

More like the Sub-Saharan Times.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:24 pm to
They have been melting pretty hard lately.
Posted by blackandgolddude
Virginia Beach
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:25 pm to
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taking inspiration from the generals — Mark Milley


Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15105 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:27 pm to
We were trained to follow constitutional orders which Trump gave.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75814 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:28 pm to
Yeah the military is going to listen to the mayors of Chicago and New York over the Commander in Chief
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
3477 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:29 pm to
Domestic enemies complain about the military constitutional oath. Freebie mob rule needs it's reckoning.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4662 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:32 pm to
Dear NY Times:

1. That's not how it works

2. Trump and Hegseth purged, and continue to purge, all of the America hating individuals who think like you.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33051 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:33 pm to
Do they know what the POTUS’s role as commander in chief entails?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35506 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:35 pm to
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New York Times: “We Used to Think the Military Would Stand Up to Trump. We Were Wrong”

Huh.

The United States military who answers to the constitutional authority of the Commander-in-Chief, the President of the United States of America, would abide by his fully constitutional wishes and commands in protecting us from enemies both foreign and domestic.

The horror!
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
42152 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:38 pm to
They, the NYTimes and their editorial board, were delusional to have ever even dreamed that our military would try to pull a coup on Trump.

Milley and Austin and a few others I can think of .... should get the firing squad, imho.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4662 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:41 pm to
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Do they know what the POTUS’s role as commander in chief entails?


They thought they did because of the things that Obama did. Namely spying on political opponets and incoming Presidents.

Using the NSA to spy on US citizens.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:43 pm to
How insurrectiony of them
Posted by rtr72
Alabama
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:43 pm to
Need to shut them down now. This is not free speech, it’s democratic propaganda bullshite
Posted by RollTide4547
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:45 pm to
On live TV for all of us to enjoy the show!
Posted by mule74
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Member since Nov 2004
12532 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:48 pm to
Soldiers don’t decide policy. Politicians do that. Soldiers are the instrument of that policy.

Politicians are elected by the citizens. Citizens decide who makes the policy.
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