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Radar Speeding Ticket: Would you pay it?

Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:48 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
32257 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:48 am
AP: A driver faces up to $110,000 in fines for speeding on a Swiss street.

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GENEVA (AP) — The driver was clocked going 27 kilometers per hour (17 mph) over the speed limit on a street in the Swiss city of Lausanne, and now he’s facing up to 90,000 Swiss francs (over $110,000) in fines as a result. But he can afford it.

Why the eye-popping penalty? Because the speedster, a repeat offender, is one of Switzerland’s wealthiest people, and the Vaud canton, or region, serves up fines based on factors like income, fortune or general family financial situation.

The Swiss are not alone. Germany, France, Austria and the Nordic countries all issue punishments based on a person’s wealth. The recent fine isn’t even a record in Switzerland. In 2010, a millionaire Ferrari driver got a ticket equal to about $290,000 for speeding in the eastern canton of St. Gallen.

Back then, the Swiss safety group Road Cross said rich drivers had been lightly punished until voters approved a penal law overhaul three years earlier that let judges hand down fines based on personal income and wealth for misdemeanors like speeding and drunk driving.

Under today’s rules, an indigent person might spend a night in jail instead of a fine, while the wealthiest in the rich Alpine country could be on the hook for tens of thousands.


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A court in the Swiss canton of Vaud recently ruled that the tycoon must pay 10,000 Swiss francs ($12,300) up front and could be forced to pay the rest — 80,000 more — if he’s caught for a similar roadway infraction over the next three years.


Switzerland’s “24 Heures” newspaper first reported the case and said the man, who was not identified, was a French citizen listed by Swiss economic weekly Bilan among the 300 richest people in Switzerland — with a fortune in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

The daily reported that an automated police radar photographed the offender driving at 77 kilometers per hour (48 mph) in a 50 kph (31 mph) zone on a Lausanne street. A quick-calculating prosecutor tallied the maximum fine the driver faced under the law, the report said.

Vincent Derouand, a spokesperson for the Vaud public prosecutors office, said the defendant didn’t contest the decision, which was handed down in June for the infraction nearly a year ago — in August 2024.

The Vaud criminal code sets a maximum financial penalty based on the “personal and economic situation of the offender at the time of the ruling” — notably taking into account issues like income, fortune, lifestyle and family financial needs.

The newspaper reported that he had already been caught for a similar speeding infraction eight years ago, and also paid 10,000 Swiss francs in penalty and faced another 60,000 if another infraction had taken place within the following two years.

In Switzerland, penalties for speeding can even catch up with the cops: One officer was fined for racing at nearly twice the speed limit through Geneva streets back in 2016 while chasing thieves who had blown up a bank teller machine.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
4301 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:50 am to
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and now he’s facing up to 90,000 Swiss francs (over $110,000) in fines as a result. But he can afford it

Subtle brag
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6612 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:51 am to
quote:

“24 Heures” newspaper


Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
Below I-10
Member since Jul 2019
3578 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:52 am to
That's in the EU and I'll likely never drive in Geneva, but technology is coming for you baw.

If you don't pay for it, they might cut off your FB account and innerwebz connections.

Posted by BigGreenTiger
Member since Mar 2022
593 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:05 am to
I am actually all for fines being related to income.
Posted by Jwils
Member since Jan 2012
1800 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:10 am to
You sound poor.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:17 am to
quote:

I am actually all for fines being related to income.


WTF does income have to do with application of the law here?

How about this, you have to show a net worth of 1 million dollars to drive a car, period? You okay with that? I'm for it.


Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13515 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:17 am to
I don't have a problem with this. Making the fine hurt a rich person in a similar way that $100 would hurt a poor person does not seem outrageous.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9148 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:20 am to
Not sure abt the laws in Switzerland, but I do not pay camera tickets in BR. I’ve gotten a couple of red light tix for rolling thru a right turn on red, and I ignore them. Based on the article it appears they are more strict over there.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:21 am to
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does not seem outrageous.


The fact you'd approve an audit of your finances for a fricking ticket tells me you are late for shift at Circle K.
Posted by Chips and Queso
Member since Aug 2025
59 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:22 am to
Krotz springs would be a world power if they implemented the same penalties as the Swiss.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
32257 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:24 am to
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The fact you'd approve an audit of your finances for a fricking ticket tells me you are late for shift at Circle K.


Assuming you pay your taxes, the government already has the info you're protesting...
Posted by bushwacker
youngsville
Member since Feb 2010
4010 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:25 am to
I remember when i was a game warden i would follow up on some tickets I wrote. the wealthy doctor lawyer types always had their charges dismissed. The blue collar welders and such always had to pay their fines. Such a messed up situation.
Posted by BIGJLAW
Member since Mar 2013
8868 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:47 am to
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I don't have a problem with this. Making the fine hurt a rich person in a similar way that $100 would hurt a poor person does not seem outrageous.

That's some Socialist BS thinking, LOL.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18511 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:48 am to
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I am actually all for fines being related to income.

So the number of votes you can cast should be related to income, too?
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4048 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:01 am to
If I am one of Switzerland's wealthiest people, I am hiring an attorney and fighting it merely on principle.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:03 am to
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the wealthy doctor lawyer types always had their charges dismissed

Medical professionals have always gotten out of minor infractions.

I have had a couple of cops say out loud, “I don’t want to wake up in the ER to see you standing there saying yeah this is the guy that wrote me a ticket.” Some folks know which side their bread is buttered.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18765 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:39 am to
Nah man.
The poors who roll around with no insurance should be in prison IMO. Because they still gonna drive regardless of tickets or license suspension
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