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JD Vance On Ukraine: “We’re Done.”

Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:59 pm
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:59 pm




















Europeans and OT warmongers, right over there, head east. Good luck.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
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Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:03 pm to
Vance is wrong. I don't want Russia attacking a NATO country and getting us in an Article 5 conflict. The only way to do that is to beat them in Ukraine. I'd rather beat them now with minimal cost and other people's soldiers than an all out NATO war.
Posted by oldskule
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:05 pm to
Common sense is beautiful, isn't it?
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
18527 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:07 pm to
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I'd rather beat them now with minimal cost and other people's soldiers than an all out NATO war.

Russia can barely hold a small portion of Ukraine. Putin isn’t attacking NATO, lol.
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 9:08 pm
Posted by Tower_Tiger12
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:07 pm to
He’s growing stronger..
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20290 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:08 pm to
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. I don't want Russia attacking a NATO country and getting us in an Article 5 conflict.


Not happening. Russia isn't that stupid and Vlad knows that would he the end.
Posted by SkiUtah420
Member since Jul 2023
1139 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:10 pm to
I dig the message but JD seems flustered , multiple speaking errors, not his usual articulate self… “Tox dollars”
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:11 pm to
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I don't want Russia attacking a NATO country

Russia is holding like 3 acres of Ukraine.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
7954 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:15 pm to
Didn't he already say that? Or was it Hegseth?

Either way it needs to be done. But until the big man says so, we are stuck.
Posted by jawnybnsc
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:15 pm to
Russia isn't attacking any NATO country. You've been propagandized to the point of irrationality.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33129 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:19 pm to
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The only way to do that is to beat them in Ukraine


“We have to fight them over there so they don’t attack us here at home”

I love your willingness to send Ukrainians to their death. Slava brother
Posted by Lynyrd
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:21 pm to
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YouKnowImRight

You chose the wrong user name.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:22 pm to
JD saying what Trump won’t.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:25 pm to
Strong message to put out prior to negotiations with Putin. Let's see how it plays out...
Again?

Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:40 pm to
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don't want Russia attacking a NATO country and getting us in an Article 5 conflict.


We leave Ukraine out of NATO and tell Russia no more BS and they stay put. Putin is a little crazy but not WWIII crazy.
Posted by TS1926
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Member since Jan 2020
7364 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:43 pm to
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Putin is a little crazy but not WWIII crazy.


He’s only crazy to westerners because you’ve sucked down all the gaslighting from western media sources. Do you still think Russia is a communist country? LOL!!!
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 9:44 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 10:04 pm to
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YouKnowImRight


Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62120 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 10:06 pm to
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Vance is wrong. I don't want Russia attacking a NATO country and getting us in an Article 5 conflict. The only way to do that is to beat them in Ukraine. I'd rather beat them now with minimal cost and other people's soldiers than an all out NATO war.


So you're just imagining reasons why we should stay in Ukraine?
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
34989 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 10:07 pm to
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YouKnowHesRight

FIFY

Dude makes a damn good point to at least give legit consideration to, even if one ultimately comes to disagree. It’s unsettling that folks are apparently so outraged at the mere thought.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
34989 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 10:11 pm to
I think he makes a good point, and here’s why: IMO, much like the situation with Islamists, too many folks underestimate the resolve of Putin (and plenty of other Russians) to accomplish ultimate goals that would likely seem a bit outrageous to us - but they don’t think the same way we do. I believe Russia, most especially with Putin at the helm, is a very underrated problem.
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