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I’ve been messing with Grok for retirement planning

Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:37 am
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3197 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:37 am
It cranks out different scenarios quickly and shows its work (equations it used to calculate). Told it what hobbies I wanted to , trips I wanted to take and it factors it all in. Anybody tried another AI model they like? I’m pretty impressed with what it’s able to show me on savings rates, spend rates, and leaving money for my kids. It prompts good questions to tighten up the model.
Posted by Larry Gooseman
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
2754 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:54 am to
I tried the same with ChatGPT and it did decent enough.

I did use it for excel formulas and put them into a workbook and modeled different return rates.

Did you learn anything you didn’t know through the process?
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3197 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 12:11 pm to
I can retire at 55, buy a 55 ft catamaran and sail it for 8 years till my wife retires, sell it, and still have a really good retirement. We’ll see how she feels about it.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20559 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 12:47 pm to
8 years free from you, she may just send you back out
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
8582 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 1:00 pm to
I've been using CoPilot (part of my Microsoft 365 subscription), ChatGPT and Grok. I find CoPilot to be the most "analytic" of the 3, but they all provide good analysis and thought provoking opinions.

Posted by Larry Gooseman
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
2754 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 1:02 pm to
I’m 40 and modeling hard for 55-57 retirement.

Was using modeling to understand where I expect my balances to be across:
1 Traditional
2 Tax free (Roth + HSA)
3 Capital gains (brokerage and real estate)

I also modeled based on what was available to us at which age.
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
1424 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 1:38 pm to
Using ChatGPT for RMD reduction planning.
Solid.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2891 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 1:47 pm to
I asked AI some straight forward.retirement tax questions and it gave me incorrect answers.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133387 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:47 pm to
Here is my retirement assessment:

1) Determine how much you think you'll need to have a financially comfortable retirement.


2) Double it....
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3197 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 3:39 pm to
Well that’s depressing haha. Guess I’ll pass on the sailboat.
Posted by Larry Gooseman
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
2754 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Double it....


Adding inflation adjusted balances is a capability too of ChatGPT. At 2.5% inflation your money is worth half as much in 28.8 years. The more you know!

The inflation adjustment definitely adds a powerful dimension to the analysis.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2891 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 5:16 pm to
The most basic retirement calculators use inflation adjusted returns this is nothing new.
Posted by PotatoChip
Member since May 2014
4531 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:12 pm to
It depends what you plan on doing in retirement. I’ve talked to quite a few retired folks who say they have way more money than they thought they needed. Do you plan on golfing everyday or traveling the world for years? Long as your house is paid off, it’s cheaper than most think (so I’ve been told).
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57643 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:15 pm to
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At 2.5% inflation


Good luck with that. The average annual inflation rate (CPI) going back to 1913 is 3.1%. Thanks, Congress.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30873 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

Here is my retirement assessment:

1) Determine how much you think you'll need to have a financially comfortable retirement.


2) Double it....

Great answer. It really is. What I thought would be GREAT when I was 40 would still be really good, but Bidenflation has me wanting double that at age 51 to feel comfortable maintaining my lifestyle and preserving wealth for my kids and grandkids.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26310 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:23 pm to
I used chat gpt for a retirement projection. It spit out the python code it used and I tweaked it. I got into the weeds with social security, RMD’s, inflation, expenses dropping once kids off payroll, grossing up withdrawals for taxes, etc.

I will still use a CFP but will definitely compare his numbers to mine.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30873 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:46 pm to
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expenses dropping once kids off payroll,

When does that happen?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49381 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:21 am to
Cant wait until AI takes your job.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60516 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:57 am to
quote:

It depends what you plan on doing in retirement. I’ve talked to quite a few retired folks who say they have way more money than they thought they needed. Do you plan on golfing everyday or traveling the world for years? Long as your house is paid off, it’s cheaper than most think (so I’ve been told).
my house will be paid for. All kids out of house and off the payroll in about 6 years. I can see us able to make it on very little. I can also see us wanting to travel and have some fun still. So projections can widely range.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2951 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:57 am to
Good luck with that. The average annual inflation rate (CPI) going back to 1913 is 3.1%. Thanks, Congress.
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And the reported inflation numbers are never correct. They are always lower than reality.
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