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Posted on 8/5/25 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Insurancerebel
Madison
Member since Aug 2021
2783 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 3:03 pm
Always a hot topic here! What is legal and what isn't!

My favorite, July toss out cracked corn and bird seed, Right about 3 weeks before the season. Disc it in really good.

Get that ground worked really good, and top sow that wheat about 10 days prior to the season.

Show your work if its legal!

How to bait a dove field
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86366 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

top sow that wheat about 10 days prior to the season

Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28037 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 3:32 pm to
My sunflowers that I planted in the spring completely failed.

I think all the rain rotted the seeds.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23649 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

Get that ground worked really good, and top sow that wheat about 10 days prior to the season.


May be legal in MS but I wouldn’t hunt over uncovered wheat in LA. It’s a grey area but not worth green jeans busting that arse. We plant millet in May. My buddy has a 6 acre Millet field. We start cutting it 2 weeks before first split. It’s covered in doves right now.
Posted by CaptJJ
Member since Jan 2021
111 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 5:52 pm to
I had planted 6 acers of sunflowers. They came in great, had a few deer browsing them. They got to about 12" tall and in two nights the deer mowed all 6 acres to the ground. Sprayed it and started over with millet. Millet looks great, going to start cutting straps into it in another two weeks. This is pearl river county MS
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20814 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 6:04 pm to
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May be legal in MS but I wouldn’t hunt over uncovered wheat in LA. It’s a grey area but not worth green jeans busting that arse.


Not so gray anymore. The federal appellate court for TX, LA, and MS had a case out of LA in 2023.

The fellow top seeded wheat in August in contravention of LSU Ag Center's recommendations in its pamphlets to plant Sept 1 or later, use one inch of soil cover, and plant only to a certain density. He shot doves over the wheat, and he got busted.

The fellow argued that MS State's pamphlet would allow his method, but the court said, "You ain't in Mississippi, boy." Also, he introduced only a part of the MS State pamphlet, and the government said that the rest of the pamphlet made clear that what he did would not fly in MS either.

US v. Holdman
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20518 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 6:13 pm to
Sounds like you need some help with that deer problem this fall! If you need some extra guns for the deer or the dove don't be afraid to give me a shout!

I'll supply the food and cold ones!


Hope all has been well.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Insurancerebel
Madison
Member since Aug 2021
2783 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 10:05 am to
I may do half the field 10 days, and the other have 5 days..



Posted by Insurancerebel
Madison
Member since Aug 2021
2783 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 10:11 am to
Know YOUR states law. People argue with me every year that its not legal.

North LA should really have different dates than the rest of the state for planting wheat. If Ark and MS Ag center says it is normal ag practice to top sow in Aug it should be considered in North LA.

Most of the grazing fields for cattle are hunted over in september, top sowed wheat. December they are green as can be.

Didn't that dumb arse, top sow wheat multiple times before the season?
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 10:13 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86366 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 10:11 am to
We got lucky last year with late harvested corn and a rain situation that produced grass in some areas but not others. The birds flocked to the open ground parts like it was baited. Best hunt I have had in many, many years.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28037 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:31 am to
From the MDWFP website:

quote:

Can I legally hunt doves over top sown winter wheat?
Yes, as long as it is done in a manner consistent with a
normal agricultural practice. For example, the planting of
wheat for wildlife food plots, winter grazing for livestock,
and a planting for agricultural erosion control are all
considered normal agricultural practices.

Must wheat be sown on prepared ground? No. Wheat
can be no-till drilled into unprepared ground. Also,
overseeding of wheat or rye prior to harvesting soybeans,
corn or cotton to establish a cover crop is recognized as a
normal agricultural practice.

What is the planting rate for wheat? Wheat is to be
planted at a rate not greater than 90 lbs
(1 1/2 bushels) per acre that is spread evenly across the
area. It may not be piled or clumped.


MDWFP
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60616 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:33 am to
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My sunflowers that I planted in the spring completely failed.

I think all the rain rotted the seeds.
Man, I used to think of just going and buying a few cleared acres around town then putting in a sunflower patch. The more I read about how hard it is to grow the damn things, the more I moved on from that idea.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28037 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:45 am to
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The more I read about how hard it is to grow the damn things, the more I moved on from that idea.


3yrs ago I had a great stand of them. Had a ton of birds in the field. Cold front moved through 3 days prior to the hunt and they all left.

Posted by Insurancerebel
Madison
Member since Aug 2021
2783 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:51 am to
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Man, I used to think of just going and buying a few cleared acres around town then putting in a sunflower patch. The more I read about how hard it is to grow the damn things, the more I moved on from that idea.


I try them every year. This year I some in rows, those failed miserably. I just sowed some and they did awesome! All the rain made it hard to keep the grass down in them.
Posted by DanielBooned
Tennessee
Member since Jun 2023
76 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:01 pm to
They are harder than corn to grow
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4627 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 2:49 pm to
“Cold front moved through 3 days prior to the hunt and they all left”

My uncle used to have a 15 acre dove field,did the top seeded wheat thing.
Most years had a decent hunt.In Grant Parish.
One year it was looking bad,very few doves day before.A front moved through N.La.Friday and Saturday had more doves than I’ve ever seen before.
He made us quit before 5:30 because he was sure we were over the limit.
Doves were still pouring in when we left.
We ended up with 500 for 17 hunters so right at 30 per person.This was in the 90’s,past the statute of limitations.
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
18944 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 3:41 pm to
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MDWFP



I the late 90s the MS game wardens would go out into the field and throw down a Hula Hoop and count the amount of wheat in the circle. Even as a teenager I couldn't believe how primitive those tactics were.
Posted by Insurancerebel
Madison
Member since Aug 2021
2783 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 7:46 am to
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I the late 90s the MS game wardens would go out into the field and throw down a Hula Hoop and count the amount of wheat in the circle. Even as a teenager I couldn't believe how primitive those tactics were.


They use a scoop now, or did a few years ago. Better hope you disc all those sunflowers and bird seed deep!
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86366 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:06 am to
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In Grant Parish
That's where we hunt just about every opening day. Near Kateland.
Posted by HomerRudd
Columbia, LA.
Member since Oct 2013
56 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:40 pm to
They have started cutting corn around my buddy's place in Gilbert. (Franklin Parish). The power lines behind his house are sagging with doves. Last year had the best hunt in twenty years. Flight birds in 10 - 12 bird groups cruising by at just under mach 1. I don't deer hunt, but live for this!
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