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Writer for The Athletic: MLB salary cap would be ‘insult to Curt Flood’s legacy’
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:14 pm
I disagree, it would be good for the overall health of the sport IMO, but I am sharing for discussion purposes.
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This post was edited on 7/30/25 at 5:15 pm
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:19 pm to InkStainedWretch
I agree that a floor and cap would be a better system than what currently exists
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:24 pm to InkStainedWretch
It’ll just bring the good teams down. The shitty team will keep spending nothing. I tried to warn you guys years ago this is what “analytics” was all about, capping salaries.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:31 pm to Madking
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I tried to warn you guys years ago this is what “analytics” was all about, capping salaries.
False. The analytics push happened in all sports. It coincided with people creating formulas to rank guys for fantasy sites and obsessions with power polls. Several teams used it, especially small markets. The primary goal was not to create a cap.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:32 pm to TexasTiger08
lol
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:37 pm to InkStainedWretch
Since 2000 MLB has seen more teams win a championship (15) than the NFL (14), NBA (12), and NHL (12). Simple argument here is that parity is demonstrably best represented by the league without a salary cap.
So why is a salary cap better for the league? Because it will introduce a floor?
So why is a salary cap better for the league? Because it will introduce a floor?
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:38 pm to WestCoastAg
Good luck getting a floor. At least 1/3 of the owners don't even try to compete.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:40 pm to McVick
I prefer a hard cap and floor that's like 90% (NFL does that, I think it's about to be 83% in the NHL). Look at a market like KC - Chiefs have been the best team for almost a decade now while the Royals have only made the playoffs once since winning in 2015.
I have no issue with the Dodgers, Mets, etc. spending so much. If only every owner cared about winning.
I have no issue with the Dodgers, Mets, etc. spending so much. If only every owner cared about winning.
This post was edited on 7/30/25 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:41 pm to Madking
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Madking
lol
Right.
It's not like a cap has made the NFL the most successful pro sports league in history.
The imbalance in MLB is absurd and let's hope next year the owners don't cave once again.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:43 pm to RD Dawg
The cap isn’t why that happened. The imbalance in the MLB isn’t real, as the other poster proved, you just have greedy owners who don’t want to win. Pirates received $230 mil in revenue share last season and spent $87mil on the roster.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:44 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Curt Flood
The guy who lost the SCOTUS case?
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:59 pm to Madking
Analytics was about figuring out certain strategies that teams who might not be as talented as the competition ... like some of those Oakland teams with Billy Beane ,,, might use to actually compete.
But as Beane himself famously said, "My s**t doesn't work in the postseason." Which is why they never won anything.
You are right about some owners just refusing to compete, but what do you do, strip them of ownership? Would that pass legal scrutiny?
But as Beane himself famously said, "My s**t doesn't work in the postseason." Which is why they never won anything.
You are right about some owners just refusing to compete, but what do you do, strip them of ownership? Would that pass legal scrutiny?
This post was edited on 7/30/25 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:01 pm to grizzlylongcut
But is looked on as a hero in some quarters today for taking on the EEEVILLL owners.
Although some of those owners were pretty damn evil. That's one reason the MLB union is so radical, they still remember the owners trying as late as 10 years after free agency became a thing to restore the old ways. Which had to change, the reserve clause could not continue.
But the pendulum has swung way out of whack.
Although some of those owners were pretty damn evil. That's one reason the MLB union is so radical, they still remember the owners trying as late as 10 years after free agency became a thing to restore the old ways. Which had to change, the reserve clause could not continue.
But the pendulum has swung way out of whack.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:03 pm to Madking
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I tried to warn you guys years ago this is what “analytics” was all abou
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:04 pm to Madking
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The cap isn’t why that happened
LMAO! Do you really think Green Bay and Kansas City
would be remotely competitive if the NFL was like MLB?
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The imbalance in the MLB isn’t real, as the other poster proved
Proved what?.The Yankees and Dodgers are still making $600 million+ in revenue each year and small and mid markets don't approach those numbers.
So yeah,it's that's called an imbalance and unsustainable.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:07 pm to RD Dawg
K… you do know GB won 5 titles before the cap right? KC won too
This post was edited on 7/30/25 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:15 pm to RD Dawg
If the Tampa bay rays can make it to the World Series twice, then there shouldn’t be arguments that teams like Pittsburgh can’t compete. They’re definitely needs to be a salary floor, and I say that as a stros fan knowing damn good and well we wouldn’t have two titles if we didn’t tank for years 15 years ago.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:19 pm to GoGators1995
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I prefer a hard cap and floor that's like 90%
buwahahahahaha hard cap my arse, you have had teams 30mil over the cap, Buffalo is are already over the cap for 25/26
NHL is a hard cap, you have to move a contract if near cap, to get space to bring in a contract to get to cap.
a few teams have found a way to cheat this, by having an injured player, wait till playoffs to come back, thus the contract does not count, as NHL salaries end on game 82. ONly thing they get is bonus money from nhl for winning or making rounds. If he comes back before, his salary would count. while injured, his contract is covered, and is not counted.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:24 pm to InkStainedWretch
You can find a way to put pressure on them though the leagues usually do the opposite of that so that’s pie in the sky. It’s too late for some with bad ownership, league needs to vet their purchase approvals better.
This post was edited on 7/30/25 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:25 pm to InkStainedWretch
"No one has the right to tell you what your God-given talent is worth; that’s between you and God."
-Curt Flood
“If I say my talent is valued at this astronomical amount, then so be it. If you can’t afford it, that’s respected. But don’t say this team over here doesn’t have the right to value players at that amount of money.”
-Curt Flood
-Curt Flood
“If I say my talent is valued at this astronomical amount, then so be it. If you can’t afford it, that’s respected. But don’t say this team over here doesn’t have the right to value players at that amount of money.”
-Curt Flood
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