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Bessemer, AL data center would use 2 million gallons of water a day

Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:30 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:30 am
The Warrior River Water Authority says it cannot supply that volume and continue to supply its current customers. That amounts to one third of its daily water supply, and the two million gallons doesn't appear to be a firm projection, it could very well be higher.

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Publicly available information suggests that the Warrior River Water Authority’s supply capacity is around 6 million gallons per day. Usage of 2 million gallons per day, then, would amount to a third of the utility’s water supply if capacity is not increased to accommodate the facility. 

The 2 million gallons of water a day requested by the developer is equivalent to the typical usage of around 6,700 households, about two-thirds of Bessemer’s entire population, based on the water utility’s consumption estimates. 


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The project’s total water usage remains a mystery. A regulatory filing by county officials estimated that the site would consume up to two billion gallons of water per day. Meanwhile, reports surfaced Saturday that Logistic had requested two million gallons of water per day for the project, a figure 1000 times smaller than the county estimate. A smaller data center in Jackson County, Alabama uses more than 182 million gallons of water per day.


This is reported to be a 700 acre project encompassing 18 buildings, all bigger than the average Walmart. The people involved will also not acknowledge the end user/owner of the data center, it is currently under a company called Logistic Land Investment. All city council members have signed non-disclosure agreements, and there are a whole lot of unanswered questions around this.

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Public officials in Bessemer, including its mayor and city attorney, have confirmed they’ve signed non-disclosure agreements related to the project, limiting the amount of information available to residents about the proposal.


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Frustrations about the project’s lack of transparency were not just limited to county residents. Jefferson County Commission President Jimmy Stephens told the city’s planning and zoning commission in June that he had not been informed about the project.

“No one has,” he said. “The way I found out about this project was through the news media. Normally we were in the loop, in this particular incident we weren’t.”
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36721 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:33 am to
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All city council members have signed non-disclosure agreements, and there are a whole lot of unanswered questions around this.


This is bullshite
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26852 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:33 am to
can they recycle the water?
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13831 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:34 am to
Don't worry... if you eat enough bugs, recycle your urine and only travel within a walkable 15 minutes of your pod... everything will be just fine!
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71554 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:34 am to
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This is bullshite

You better take it up with those officials who have publicly stated they did so.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11935 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:34 am to
All signed NDAs...lol
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13831 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:34 am to
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can they recycle the water?


I wonder this too, why can't it be a closed, chilled system?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36721 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:35 am to
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You better take it up with those officials who have publicly stated they did so.


Their residents should. If this can be done, why wouldn’t governments just sign NDA’s for everything and do whatever the hell they want?

Posted by Cotten
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2018
1744 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:35 am to
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All city council members have signed non-disclosure agreements, and there are a whole lot of unanswered questions around this.

These are officials elected to represent the people of their constituency for fricks sake. How in the world does this make any sort of sense?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70975 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:36 am to
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I wonder this too, why can't it be a closed, chilled system?


That might well be the recovery amount for an open cooling tower setup.

ETA: A closed system for a data system would use an astronomical amount of electricity.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 11:37 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71554 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:37 am to
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Their residents should.

Agreed, and I believe they're trying to.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37119 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:38 am to
Or we could just not do the data center AI shite AND not use up all the water

Wild concept there
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13831 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:39 am to
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ETA: A closed system for a data system would use an astronomical amount of electricity.


Thanks for the explanation.

So... they will either use an astronomical amount of electricity or an astronomical amount of water... but we have to feel shame for plastic straws and Sunday drives.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9935 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:41 am to
Where in the frick are the climate change environmentalists? This is an absurd amount of precious freshwater being wasted to collect cat videos.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71554 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:41 am to
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Where in the frick are the climate change environmentalists?

They're leading the charge on this one.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36721 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:42 am to
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Where in the frick are the climate change environmentalists?


Well they are all over these things to be fair
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16053 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:44 am to
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wasted to collect cat videos


Man, don't mess with my cat videos.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9905 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:46 am to
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Public officials in Bessemer, including its mayor and city attorney, have confirmed they’ve signed non-disclosure agreements related to the project, limiting the amount of information available to residents about the proposal.


If this isn’t already illegal it should be
Posted by lsubatman1
Member since Feb 2009
1764 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:47 am to
I thought water and technoligy didnt mix? Hmmm feels like someone is being lied to here.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71554 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:50 am to
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I thought water and technoligy didnt mix? Hmmm feels like someone is being lied to here.

They use water to cool the billion servers they have.
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