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No Tax on Tips has Servers Melting

Posted on 7/13/25 at 7:50 am
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 7:50 am
Seen a few videos scrolling the facebooks today.

Seems they finally realized it’s a tax deduction. The problem? They have been pocketing their cash tips and not claiming the income. Credit card tips are easily tracked by an employer. Its hitting them that they have to be honest with the IRS now and they are screwed.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 7:52 am to
Why would the way they report their tips change?
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 7:53 am to
when you started with "seen" I should have known what was coming.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79696 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 7:54 am to


Just like when the shrimpers got hit with the BP oil spill and had to use their tax returns to prove their losses.

Their losses were much bigger, but they couldn't go there.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 7:54 am to
Wait, they thought you could just pocket the money and not report it?

Really?
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27239 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 7:57 am to
Cash in the pocket - no reporting

quote:

they have to be honest with the IRS


Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38281 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 7:57 am to
They can still pocket cash tips.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:00 am to
quote:

Its hitting them that they have to be honest with the IRS now and they are screwed.


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Posted by L5ut1g3r
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:09 am to
I think he meant “seended”!
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111960 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:11 am to
quote:

Why would the way they report their tips change?


Exactly.

They can and will still pocket cash tips. This will help them out with the CC tips, and those that have "communal tips" that are recorded and disbursed at the end of the night.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14713 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Its hitting them that they have to be honest with the IRS now and they are screwed.


What? They can still keep cash tips and never report them. That's 0% income tax.

Credit card tips are already taxed. Most servers wouldn't exceed the standard deduction in claimed tips anyway.

Nothing changed for most tip wage earners. They'll take the standard deduction and keep cash tips unreported.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11055 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Seen a few videos scrolling the facebooks today.

Seems they finally realized it’s a tax deduction. The problem? They have been pocketing their cash tips and not claiming the income. Credit card tips are easily tracked by an employer. Its hitting them that they have to be honest with the IRS now and they are screwed.



I don't know why people didn't pick up on the real goal of "no tax on tips" was to pull a gray market of labor revenue fully above board and taxable.
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1559 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:19 am to
They’ll just continue to not report cash tips without fear of repercussions.

More importantly the IRS won’t be wasting resources investigating someone who didn’t claim 10k in tips.

Hopefully this leads to the reduction of IRS employees.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:22 am to
quote:

They can and will still pocket cash tips. This will help them out with the CC tips, and those that have "communal tips" that are recorded and disbursed at the end of the night.

This is how it's done.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
78767 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:23 am to
They dumb if they think it's a bad deal.

Who cares if it's reported since it's non taxable? And the IRS assumes you got a percentage of the check so it's a cut even if you're pocketing cash tips.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11055 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:23 am to
quote:

They’ll just continue to not report cash tips without fear of repercussions.

More importantly the IRS won’t be wasting resources investigating someone who didn’t claim 10k in tips.

Hopefully this leads to the reduction of IRS employees.


Maybe I'm a cynic, but I think the IRS prefers to go after small unpaid taxes amounts from small businesses and low-to-middle income individuals because it has the most successful outcomes. You invest time and money into getting a large corporation or billionaire who is swindling the government, you're apt to come out empty handed because you get bogged down by their lawyers. They'd rather pounce on a single mom who owes 10k in tips that can't afford legal representation than a corporation who owes 10m with a fleet of legal counsel.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14713 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:25 am to
quote:

I don't know why people didn't pick up on the real goal of "no tax on tips" was to pull a gray market of labor revenue fully above board and taxable.


Because it doesn't match reality on the ground. The average tip wage earner makes $32k/yr full time. They're not itemizing deductions. They'd pay more.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38069 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:26 am to
Dear Fakebook


Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14713 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:33 am to
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Who cares if it's reported since it's non taxable?


It is taxable. A certain amount is deductible.

In fact, there will likely be fraud in the other direction. Claim $35k in reported take-home and wage, $10k in cash tips, lie and say you made $20k extra in cash tips, pay less overall taxes because you claim deductions you normally couldn't.

It's cash, there's no way to verify they didn't get that money. Now they get an extra $7500 in refund over the standard deduction.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16742 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:34 am to
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They'd rather pounce on a single mom who owes 10k in tips that can't afford legal representation than a corporation who owes 10m with a fleet of legal counsel.


Doubtful. Going for a big score with a corporation is time and work but a lot of tax departments are understaffed so smaller assessments aren't worth fighting. They could collect 10x what they can get from your single mom by just shitting out a letter to a 20B revenue company.
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