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LA State Rep. Chuck Owen (R-Rosepine): Time For A Fundamental Debate On Carbon Capture

Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:16 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:16 am
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A few weeks ago, I was in a meeting in the great City of Pineville. I was invited to an open forum on the topic of carbon capture utilization and sequestration (CCUS) at Pineville High School. A group of academic proponents/experts on CCUS and representatives of the executive and legislative branch were in attendance to address how CCUS works, why some believe it is needed and to address the possible future of this activity in Central Louisiana, primarily in Rapides Parish.

Also in attendance was a representative from a firm that wishes to conduct business in Rapides Parish by repurposing an abandoned industrial facility and setting up an operation to process timber products and waste. The business has a laudable goal—to produce energy from wood byproducts and create and sell energy from these processes. This would be a good business for central Louisiana.

Part of the business’ model and requirement for the firm, however, is that carbon emitted from the production facility be captured and transported to a below ground permanent storage site. Permanently stored.
Also known as being sequestered. The business representative told the audience that their effort would be contained to producing the energy, capturing emissions and then turning that carbon over to someone (another business) who would transport it by pipeline and bury it “somewhere else.”

The “somewhere else” is in Vernon Parish; for those who live in south Louisiana, Vernon is due west of Rapides. The business representative seemed reticent to discuss the fact that the carbon would mostly be transported out of Rapides and into Vernon. As a resident of Vernon, needless to say, I was paying careful attention.

At one point, the representative used the phrase the “hub in Vernon” when referring to the location of the sequestered carbon. In recent months, I’ve seen a number of articles and publications that indicate a number of pipelines from around Louisiana and from other parts of the country all seeming to converge in central Louisiana—right in Vernon Parish. Some of these articles have graphics. I’ve seen these and have wondered who cooked up the idea or who has propagated the notion that Vernon Parish would a good place for all of this to converge. Who came up with the idea of the “hub?” And why?

The day after the Pineville meeting, I asked a representative from the Department of Energy and Natural Resources where this idea originated. This person admitted he didn’t know and told me it had been in place since he arrived as part of the new gubernatorial administration. Basically, he told me “we inherited” this idea. I asked him to look deeper.

He called back inside of a day and told me. It was the Biden Administration’s Environmental Protection Agency who cooked up this idea.

So let’s set the scene of where we are right now:

There are people who think carbon needs to be captured for any litany of reasons. I think it’s a fool’s errand, but some people want to capture it for environmental reasons. Got it.

Some people believe that the captured carbon needs to be deposited under ground in order to achieve some GOAL. Depending on who you talk to, the goal is different. One of two types of people believe carbon needs to be buried:

Leftists who say we need to capture it because of climate change. Also a debatable point. I think it’s a crazy idea, but regardless, it’s what they believe; or

Money-grubbers. These are folks who grovel to get businesses to come here and say we have to capture and bury carbon because “markets demand” we decarbonize. As an aside: I’ve debunked this myth a number of times and no one has provided me any receipts to the contrary.

But, those are the two camps who want to bury carbon—leftist idealogues and money grubbers who want to grovel to left wing lunatics, who are probably are influenced by the leftist idealogues.

While all of this is being done in the academic and political world, someone, somewhere is deciding a rural portion of Western Louisiana should be offered up as a location for carbon to be buried. Whoever that someone or someone’s were, I don’t know, but I resolutely know this: This carbon “hub” is not wanted in the place envisioned.

Vernon Parish has been selected as essentially a dump site for below-ground, man-made industrial waste. Whoever decided this did NOT coordinate the effort across the expanse of government entities in the parish. I’ve asked a number of elected officials, and not one tells me anyone has been approached with the idea of a huge carbon “hub.”

There are many, many reasons why doing carbon sequestration is a bad idea. I’ve talked and written about these things for some time. But the main reason why this is a bad idea is that few, if any people who live around here want this waste burial activity to come into our parish. I’ve not met more than 5 people who are in support of burying one drop of carbon in our ground, much less the many millions of tons that are envisioned.

The idea of burying industrial waste on a mass scale needs to be something our citizens get to decide. An unnamed bureaucrat from the previous left-wing administration should not get to decide our future. We should decide it.

What concerns me is that if someone decided Vernon’s future without consulting actual people who LIVE in Vernon. This thought leads me to concern for fellow citizens around Louisiana: What other bad ideas have been draped around the neck of our citizens by people who aren’t from here? While I am concerned about my home parish, I am concerned for the WHOLE State. The good people in places like Allen, Livingston, Rapides and other places are also being targeted for this activity as well.

The 2025 Legislative Session has been over for a month. My effort to get a local option on this activity did not pass the legislature. Be advised I will bring it back next year and I will have more allies.

Until such time: I implore anyone who wants to discuss the utility of capturing and burying carbon to come out of hiding and let’s have a debate. You bring a team, we’ll bring a team and let’s have a debate. Let’s debate the utility and let’s debate the world markets. We can even debate climate change. But most importantly, let’s debate whether its right or wrong to force something like this on communities and regions where no one really wants it to happen. If any of you have the nerve to accept this challenge, I’m not hard to find. Name the place. Name the time. Bring the receipts.


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Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37662 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:20 am to
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The business has a laudable goal—to produce energy from wood byproducts and create and sell energy from these processes. This would be a good business for central Louisiana.


Ohhhh yes! Renewable energy biomass fuel! Just like the British use with Drax!
Those two big arse white balls next to the miss river bridge in BR? Those are filled with wood pellets that Drax loads onto diesel burning ships in the Mississippi river to transport the renewable energy all the way to Great Britain so they can feel good about themselves for using renewable energy… just ignore the required diesel powered shipping across the world to retrieve said biofuel
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72557 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:21 am to
The “haves” will pick on the “have-nots” (of which Vernon Parish is a member of this group) forever.

No news here, get used to ibeing at that place in the food chain and scream loudly and maybe they’ll pick on a more desperate (or less savvy) other have-not.

Carbon sequestration is silly as you said.

Ask one major volcanic eruption where it wants to sequester its carbon.

Silly.

Climate change is billions of years old.
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 9:24 am
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1703 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:32 am to
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If any of you have the nerve to accept this challenge, I’m not hard to find. Name the place. Name the time. Bring the receipts.


Sonic fixing to be lit!
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
15069 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:36 am to
Burying our trash underground in our backyards so the elites that don't live here can fly on private jets from place to place acting smug about their zero emissions manufacturing. frick each and every single one of these people.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
54573 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:38 am to
Carbon capture? Plant more trees
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2795 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:04 am to
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Carbon capture? Plant more trees


It's almost like these people don't realize co2 is plant food.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17503 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:05 am to
You know our legislators voted for this back in JBE administration thinking it was some sort of oil related business that would help the state. They were all hoodwinked and now there trying their best to stand up to it, instead of doing some research on what happens if the carbon seeks into local water systems around the hub before voting it in.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32622 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:13 am to
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Money-grubbers. These are folks who grovel to get businesses to come here and say we have to capture and bury carbon because “markets demand” we decarbonize. As an aside: I’ve debunked this myth a number of times and no one has provided me any receipts to the contrary.

Every politician is money grubbing. I’m sure we could find out who this idiot is money grubbing for. He’ll be long gone when these projects go to Texas and Louisiana continues to recede further into the abyss.

The elected dumbasses will continue to sell backwards thinking to their constituent dumbasses to prevent progress and economic prosperity. Vernon parish is a dumpster already, but they could add a several billion dollar asset with 100s of jobs that likely average a pay 2-3x higher than the parish average household income, and likely additional high value businesses that will come bc of that utility. And all at the low low cost of sequestering carbon dioxide which has almost no risk to it, far less than the oil exploration and various other industries already permitted to play in Vernon and other comparable parishes

LA has a chance to get ahead for once and replace the slowly fading O&G industry that’s propped up our state for so long. We could be the world leaders in carbon sequestration, which is the way things will go in the long run whether you are politically for it or against it
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9571 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:21 am to
This is all a fricking terrible idea. For Rapides and Vernon

This place is so fricking backwards.

Job, job, jobs, that's all your hear. Money for the economy. People need to wake the frick up. You know how you make a local economy work? Local employers. Hopefully ones that set up a HQ in your area.

The future of prosperity in Cenla doesn't rely on businesses coming in and employing people or setting up new plants, or implementing new tech. You know why businesses set up shop in an area? Because it's economically advantaegous for them, the community there be damned. If it helps them, great. It usually doesn't.

Prosperity in this area relies on employers like Roy O Martin, who create a business and then employ those people while sustaining business. You know why Cenla doesn't have a litany of that activity? Because anyone with half a brain leaves the area at age 18, and then the state at age 22.

You have to keep people home. You have to keep them invested in the area. You do that by making them feel safe (cracking down on crime), and entertained (have things to do). Cenla has neither of those. Sure there are festivals here and there, and a half a block of downtown that has some activity, but that's fricking it.

This CCS shite, regardless of politics, is just another big waste of time and a cheap way for it to look like politicians are trying to bring prosperity into the area despite the fact that there will be long term ramifications, because they know to actually improve the area that it's going to take a lot of hard work (which won't immediately line their pockets), starting with addressing the crime and drug problem that absolutely HAUNTS this area.
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 10:25 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32622 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:25 am to
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Burying our trash underground in our backyards so the elites that don't live here can fly on private jets from place to place acting smug about their zero emissions manufacturing. frick each and every single one of these people.

CO2 is far from trash. This isn’t nuclear waste. They’ll just put it in Texas and we’ll continue to live in our trailers and recede as the O&G industry moves to where sequestration is allowed
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25838 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:36 am to
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they could add a several billion dollar asset with 100s of jobs that likely average a pay 2-3x higher than the parish average household income, and likely additional high value businesses that will come bc of that utility.


How many people does it take to monitor a well?

That’s basically what this is. Drilling a well and pumping something in rather than taking something out.

How many locals would get that job or the handful of jobs for monitoring? How many locals will be hired to construct the pipelines? To make the drill pad and drill the well?
Posted by Herschal
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2011
2095 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:36 am to
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Those two big arse white balls next to the miss river bridge


I never knew what the stinky tits were for.

Thanks for that.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9571 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:40 am to
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How many locals would get that job or the handful of jobs for monitoring? How many locals will be hired to construct the pipelines? To make the drill pad and drill the well?


Less than they promise. For sure.

We need to stop relying on other companies to come here and save our communities. We have the means to do it ourselves. It will take a hell of a turnaround, and I'm not saying to ignore every economic opportunity, but the current setup of allowing outside businesses to come here and pillage us is not the answer. We need to be WAY more judicial about opportunities, and that requires having leverage.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4546 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:43 am to
I wish the communities could fight it and win. And that Meta center, too. We don’t need either of these things.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27131 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:45 am to
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We need to stop relying on other companies to come here and save our communities. We have the means to do it ourselves.


Like?

I’m genuinely curious.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27131 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:46 am to
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Prosperity in this area relies on employers like Roy O Martin, who create a business and then employ those people while sustaining business.


I believe they’ve shown some interesting in leasing some of their timberlands for CCSU projects. Hell, may have already, but don’t know for sure.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32622 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:49 am to
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How many people does it take to monitor a well?

The well itself will be relatively few, but more than O&G. The permits will stipulate 24/7 monitoring, and there will be compression units that need operators. But the utility of having the sequestration site will bring in large amounts of new plants, which will need operations teams. For example, Owen alludes to a large plant being built in Pineville that would have a huge operations team. And in addition to the direct resulting jobs, there will be another 10-20% of indirect jobs to support the workers like restaurants, gas stations, hotels, retail, etc. Plus there’s a likelihood that LA based firms will get big roles in the construction, design, etc of these plants. The plants will also need regular TAR support and maintenance support
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32622 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:51 am to
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And that Meta center, too. We don’t need either of these things.

now we mad about data centers too. You guys are desperate to stay poor. The only companies that will be in LA soon will be seafood industry, personal injury attorneys, and chicken finger salespeople
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9571 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:54 am to
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I believe they’ve shown some interesting in leasing some of their timberlands for CCSU projects. Hell, may have already, but don’t know for sure.


Which I wouldn't blame any employer for taking the opportunity if it's here. My hope is that it gets squashed before we get to that point.
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