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How did we wind up at *ODDS* with Iran? Scott Horton explains.

Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:03 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:03 pm
Tucker podcast

Basically everything we’ve been told about the Mid East is a not so secret lie but we (US Government) did it anyway.


Happy 4th



*Edited for the autistic screamers on the board.
This post was edited on 7/4/25 at 6:25 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:12 pm to
We aren’t at war with Iran
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:13 pm to
We aren’t at war with Iran. Never have been and probably never will be. They don’t want the smoke
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:14 pm to
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We aren’t at war with Iran




Don't forget it took nearly 2 years of war drums beating before we entered Iraq.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14402 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:14 pm to
I’m anti war and will call out trump when needed all day but our involvement hasn’t escalated to a “War” and any assertion is wish casting at this time
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
37603 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:17 pm to
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We aren’t at war with Iran. Never have been and probably never will be. They don’t want the smoke


Yeah, when the CIA overthrows your government it's not a war, and there is no reason anyone should ever be upset with that.

And when a country gives a country that declared war on you and attacked you WMD to use against your own people, that is also not an act of War and there is no reason anyone should ever be upset with that.

And when a country bombs places inside your country, that is also not an act of War and there is no reason anyone should ever be upset with that.

After all, us Americans are willing to allow any country to do these thing to us and we'd never been upset with them. We understand it's in our best interests if another nation does these things to us. And if you want proof, just look at what we let Israel do.

This post was edited on 7/4/25 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66593 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:18 pm to
That’s fine, but the bombing was totally unnecessary and we were gaslit into thinking it had to happen.
This post was edited on 7/4/25 at 12:20 pm
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
1842 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:20 pm to
you misunderstand what you're calling war was actually just a good old fashioned country arse whipping , you're welcome!
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15211 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:21 pm to
We literally invented those bombs for that specific target. I’m glad we did it and China is shaking in their boots because we did it
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3726 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:22 pm to
We have been at war with Iran, since Jimmy Carter let the Shah be removed.

This war is much like the English proxy war with Russia that started in the mid 1700's.

The English proxy war had one goal and that was to keep Russia from gaining control of Constantinople.

That is how you got the Crimea war and why Churchill lead the call and planning for the Gallipoli operation.

The US war with Iran is an ongoing operation to make sure they do not get a nucleal weapon, if they do, they will use it.

Iran only has two tragets on it's attack list Israel and the US.

Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:22 pm to
Its been a great podcast, really fills on a lot of gaps.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
23267 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:47 pm to
“War” they keep using that word, I don’t think it means what they think it means
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14661 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:55 pm to
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Basically everything we’ve been told about the Mid East is a not so secret lie but we (US Government) did it anyway.


The comments section identifies critical lies by Horton and he has blatantly mis-characterized Iran's enrichment of uranium.

Dave Smith's garbage talking points from the past couple weeks were lifted straight from Horton.

As with most stuff Tucker has produced recently, take this discussion with a huge grain of salt.
Posted by Pecos Pedro
Member since Nov 2024
745 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:57 pm to
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3down10




Jigga be melting like a pedo who lost his frick toy this week.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35698 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:58 pm to
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Yeah, when the CIA overthrows your government it's not a war, and there is no reason anyone should ever be upset with that.

What is this melodramatic 7 decade-old shite?

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
37603 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 1:00 pm to
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What is this melodramatic 7 decade-old shite?


It's called history you stupid frick.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33359 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 1:03 pm to
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at war with Iran

No we werent
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Scott Horton explains.

No he doesnt. He seems to have trouble defining the whole concept of war
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war is a conflict between political groups involving hostilities of considerable duration and magnitude. War as an institution recognized in custom or in law. Military writers usually confine the term to hostilities in which the contending groups are sufficiently equal in power to render the outcome uncertain for a time.

: a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations

: a period of such armed conflict

We were never at war, because Iran never engaged us
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
37603 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 1:05 pm to
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We were never at war, because Iran never engaged us




It wasn't a fight, I just beat the frick outta the guy.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42361 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 1:16 pm to
Three hour long podcast which explains how all this started back in 1953 but you’re gonna quibble over the title just because you don’t think we’re at “war“.

Happy fourth.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33359 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 1:17 pm to
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It wasn't a fight, I just beat the frick outta the guy.

Exactly

Thanks for the confirmation
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