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Confusion on how bbb helps high earners?

Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:16 am
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6259 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:16 am
Salt phases out at 600k, tax brackets remain the same, standard is up slightly?

Seems like it targets middle class at best? What’s the catch?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36126 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:18 am to
SALT cap is definitely geared for high earners but the rest is just political bullshite. Certainly concerning individual taxpayers
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6259 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:20 am to
The SALT cap phases back to 10k after 600k which isn’t even 1% of HH. What’s the actual benefit? Somethings fishy
Posted by PNW_TigerSaint
Member since Oct 2016
1300 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:22 am to
The estate tax aspect is where it really saves bigger dollars for wealthier people.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6259 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:23 am to
That’s truly fricked, everything to protect old people wealth but not help new people develop wealth
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
50752 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:27 am to
The TJCA was scheduled to expire after this year. By definition the extension is a tax cut, which definitely benefits high income earners compared to the tax bracket prior to 2017
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:34 am to
quote:

The TJCA was scheduled to expire after this year. By definition the extension is a tax cut, which definitely benefits high income earners compared to the tax bracket prior to 2017


High earners got a cut from 39% to 37%. Not really a gamechanger like the standard deduction and child tax credit. They also have restrictions on their deductions.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45081 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:41 am to
Yall need to read about the QBI deduction. That is the real big tax break for the high earners
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36126 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:45 am to
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Yall need to read about the QBI deduction. That is the real big tax break for the high earners


Not every high earner is a business owner nor does every business make sense to be an S corp
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30887 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:46 am to
quote:

The TJCA was scheduled to expire after this year. By definition the extension is a tax cut, which definitely benefits high income earners compared to the tax bracket prior to 2017

This. Invest and make your money in the market. It's going to boom under Trump. Corporate tax cuts mean higher profits for companies, more profits mean higher share price. Rich people own equities, poor and middle class do not or not nearly to the same degree. The income brackets have been adjusted upward so I'm hoping I can keep my capital gains to 15%. I think couples like $760k or something get the 15%. I can work with that. Especially as I slow down and retire early. I've been assuming 20% capital gains.

This is just the first step to deeper cuts. Direct tax breaks for the rich don't play well for either side.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
50752 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:49 am to
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High earners got a cut from 39% to 37%. Not really a gamechanger


I know the progressive tax system is difficult... But at the time it was a very significant tax decrease for high earners.

Using the example of the OP, lets assume his household takes in 600K of standard taxable earned income.

His tax bill prior to TCJA: $160,874
Tax bill with TCJA: $136,720

A savings of $24,154, or 15%.

That is pretty significant
This post was edited on 7/4/25 at 11:52 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
18948 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:54 am to
It doesn’t other than around the margins.

If you make over $200k you get phased out of everything, don’t qualify for anything and just pay pay pay.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
18948 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

The TJCA was scheduled to expire after this year.


I get what you’re saying. But keeping the same brackets we’ve had for years isn’t really a cut - it’s political semantics.

Much better than the alternative though.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45081 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:39 pm to
QBI isnt just for S Corps.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40531 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 1:59 pm to
Basically all income groups got large tax breaks percentage wise under the TCJA. I don't know why everybody acting all crazy about it.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2979 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 2:45 pm to
Except this is false.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36126 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Except this is false.


Rates were lowered for everyone pretty substantially
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2979 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 3:27 pm to
Try googling it to see impact by tax bracket. Big variances.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
18460 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 3:56 pm to
Helping high earners isn’t really what Trumps about, he’s trying to help the middle class as you accurately stated.

Helping the rich is just spin the Democrats try to put on him.

Be happy for what help you are getting.

Tax the frick out of the rich and socialism / communism with the insiders picking winners and losers are what the other side is about.

From what I can see eliminating income tax for anyone making $200K or less with reduced rates (from what’s being paid now) for those above is the long term goal, but that’s going to take a little while to get there.
This post was edited on 7/4/25 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Rabt
Member since Jan 2021
37 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 4:27 pm to
Why can't we just have a flat tax so everyone has skin in the game?
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