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We used to brag about our trades and war chests
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:16 am
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:16 am
End of the day amounted to diddly shite.
Maybe our worst trade ever will give us good karma and things will work out well with the players that lead to on court success for the team.
Couple truths about fanaticism. We are never right as much as we think we are. No matter any amount of lazy national beat writer consensus. Also, we may not be quite as wrong sometimes as when we are sometimes if that makes any sense.
The vibes off this organization are new, sort of refreshing and i like the style of some of the players they are going after. Seems like we are assembling a fun lineup of players. Zion, Herb, Trey, Poole, and Dejunte among other have to learn to win and close out games.
Maybe our worst trade ever will give us good karma and things will work out well with the players that lead to on court success for the team.
Couple truths about fanaticism. We are never right as much as we think we are. No matter any amount of lazy national beat writer consensus. Also, we may not be quite as wrong sometimes as when we are sometimes if that makes any sense.
The vibes off this organization are new, sort of refreshing and i like the style of some of the players they are going after. Seems like we are assembling a fun lineup of players. Zion, Herb, Trey, Poole, and Dejunte among other have to learn to win and close out games.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:32 am to Chad504boy
Kinda agree. The NBA fandom loves to talk about how valuable draft picks are right until they become a player and then it’s worthless. Pels were as bad as humanly possible last year and it got them the 7th pick. Odds are we’ll be better, and in a year the hawks will draft some European project that rots away in the G league and this whole thing will fade into obscurity . The odds that pick ends up top 3 is probably the same odds that Queen ends up being a good player which is like idk 3-5%?
Trade was dumb and an overpay no doubt about it, but if before you pretend we just traded away next years Michael Jordan go and look up the players drafted in the 10-15 range the last couple years and let me know if any of those guys would unlock the Pelicans potential
Trade was dumb and an overpay no doubt about it, but if before you pretend we just traded away next years Michael Jordan go and look up the players drafted in the 10-15 range the last couple years and let me know if any of those guys would unlock the Pelicans potential
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:50 am to smil3432
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The odds that pick ends up top 3 is probably the same odds that Queen ends up being a good player which is like idk 3-5%?
If Queen has a 95-97% chance of not being a good player, then this was the worst trade in the history of sports.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:58 am to SaintTigerPel
hyperbole aside, it was a bad trade value wise. the bet of queen turning out to be a good player and the process of getting to that offer are two separate things. the lack of process the org has followed in general with hiring dumars and then this negligent trade are alarming. queen could very well turn out to be a good player. that doesn't mean the process that led to this trade isn't flawed.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 12:06 pm to Chad504boy
Let’s keep it positive please.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 12:41 pm to whatiknowsofar
Pelicans are a farm team for the rest of the NBA.
Hornets, Pelicans, Kings, and sometimes the Magic or Wizards provide talent to the rest of the NBA.
Those owners don't care because they get free money.
Hornets, Pelicans, Kings, and sometimes the Magic or Wizards provide talent to the rest of the NBA.
Those owners don't care because they get free money.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:32 pm to Chad504boy
There were plenty of fans that were consistently right about awful trades made by the previous regime.
The Adams/Bledsoe trades were rightfully panned by many. The failure to trade Lonzo for Markenna was criticized left and right. The Graham sign and trade was widely panned.
Hell, a lot of people called out trading the 2019 #4 to ATL stupid at the time it happened.
The Pelicans simply continues the ridiculous Dell stupidity of trying to bring in talented/potentially talented players that absolutely did not fit.
Joe is doing the same thing, so I understand it’s no different for you, but the war chest from AD was completely wasted as has basically been the Jrue trade.
The Adams/Bledsoe trades were rightfully panned by many. The failure to trade Lonzo for Markenna was criticized left and right. The Graham sign and trade was widely panned.
Hell, a lot of people called out trading the 2019 #4 to ATL stupid at the time it happened.
The Pelicans simply continues the ridiculous Dell stupidity of trying to bring in talented/potentially talented players that absolutely did not fit.
Joe is doing the same thing, so I understand it’s no different for you, but the war chest from AD was completely wasted as has basically been the Jrue trade.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:35 pm to Geauxgurt
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The Adams/Bledsoe trades were rightfully panned by many. The failure to trade Lonzo for Markenna was criticized left and right. The Graham sign and trade was widely panned.
I know I shite on all three of these and DD trade. Was right on the money on all of them. Was especially vocal about the DD and non Lauri M trade and giving up a first for Adams.
This trade may not end up being bad but it just has a high probability of blowing up in our face. It’s chances we didn’t have to take. If it had top 3 protections on it, I wouldn’t be so negative about it. But it doesn’t.
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:43 pm to Townedrunkard
If they trade it while it is lotto protected or he’ll even just too 4 protected, you would not see concerns like you are. There is a difference between falling love with a project player and selling the farm for them.
Smart GMs take calculated risks but with fall back options. Then there is Dumars and company.
Smart GMs take calculated risks but with fall back options. Then there is Dumars and company.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:54 pm to Geauxgurt
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If they trade it while it is lotto protected or he’ll even just too 4 protected
I get it but the chances of one of our picks landing in top 4 is probably ~ 33%.
It was a dumbass trade to not protect it, but this trade likely will not bite us.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:10 pm to Chad504boy
The worst part of the Grif era was him sitting on assets too long & underachieving on the assets (picks and players) in general. I think the draft selections we did make in that era were below average at best.
I am not sure what this new Dumars era will produce, but I’m at least happy it’s a break from the old. We burned a lot of assets, but I’d rather do that than sit on them too long.
Our cards are laid now & we’ll see what the risk yields in a year or two
I am not sure what this new Dumars era will produce, but I’m at least happy it’s a break from the old. We burned a lot of assets, but I’d rather do that than sit on them too long.
Our cards are laid now & we’ll see what the risk yields in a year or two
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:17 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Fat, Great, Good, meh and injured
Zion, Herb, Trey, Poole, and Dejunte
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:32 pm to SirWinston
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I get it but the chances of one of our picks landing in top 4 is probably ~ 33%. It was a dumbass trade to not protect it, but this trade likely will not bite us.
It limits the team’s ability to do much of value wit the 25 draft. The “leaders” traded 2 first round picks (Pels/Bucks and Pacers) that both had a reasonable chance of being good picks to get a project player with conditioning and weight issues.
Even if he turns out great, the trade is reckless and completely irresponsible.
Pels fanbase is so desperate and lets an awful owner continue to waste their money and time, but go for it.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:18 pm to Chad504boy
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We used to brag about our trades and war chests
LOL
Remember there was talk around here of our “championship window” when we drafted Zion? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
People don’t realize that a staple of residing in New Orleans is that the windows are painted shut.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 5:57 am to Chad504boy
That trade doesn’t really stop the Pelicans from fulfilling their ultimate mission. Drafting lottery picks and developing them for skeletor’s Lakers.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 5:47 pm to SaintTigerPel
I think it was meant as 3-5% chance that he is as good as a top 3 player, wish is the same % that not doing the trade, that you would get a top 3 pick.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 7:04 pm to Chad504boy
We just have a miserable fanbase. One of the worst in the entire league. Everyone was complaining about the moves or lack of by Griff. Sitting on this “warchest” which is as a ton of pick swaps and none really landed in an area that landed in a spot with a generational talent. I don’t love the Dumars hire nor did i like the trade of the unprotected Pick. With that being said Dumars wasn’t responsible for the bs that got us here and the dude finally took a massive swing. Smart? Ehhh. But they think that highly of Queen. And i do listen to the opinions of former players, people who actually played the game and they absolutely love the Queen kid. The assumption that the pick we gave away is just bound to be a top 4-5 pick is just asinine. Pick could easily be at 12-14 as well. I think Queen will be an eventual all star and if he is i don’t care what they gave up. This team needed young up and coming talent and they got fears, Queen, Zion, Trey, and Herb. That’s the most potential we’ve had in a very long time.
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