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CCA is stocking redfish in Louisiana

Posted on 6/25/25 at 7:21 am
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4598 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 7:21 am
If they believe the wild stock of redfish in Louisiana is poor enough to stock, then why did they oppose the reduction in creel limits?

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Big news for Louisiana redfish anglers! For the first time ever, redfish are being added to the state’s stocking efforts.
100,000 redfish fingerlings will be released into coastal marshes this year — raised from broodstock caught during the 2024 Ride The Bull Kayak Fishing Tournament.
You can read the full story in your July/August issue of Tide Magazine.
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:00 am to
Tx has been stocking saltwater fish for decades. Part of the BP money was going to a hatchery at Calcasieu Pt but I assume that money was swept by the legislature for Ruth’s Cris steaks.
Kinda swept $$$ out of the fund for pet projects to the point that Billy Breaux resigned from the WL&F board in discussed.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23884 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:05 am to
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If they believe the wild stock of redfish in Louisiana is poor enough to stock, then why did they oppose the reduction in creel limits?


because whatever CCA does is wrong-- the OB

They opposed new creel limits for recreational fishermen because there was no action taken on pogie boats. If the LDWF is not going to be serious about the real problem kiling redfish, then why do we have to always be the ones giving it up?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70835 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:11 am to
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They opposed new creel limits for recreational fishermen because there was no action taken on pogie boats.


Im down with this. frick me giving up anything when the real problems get zero action.

I hate commercial fishing. There are plenty of fish suitable for farming to feed the people. You shouldn't be able to eat a fresh red snapper fillet in a restaurant when I cant legally keep my own.
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4598 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:16 am to
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If the LDWF is not going to be serious about the real problem kiling redfish, then why do we have to always be the ones giving it up?


I don't disagree that significant action needs to be taken against the commercial fishery, however, two wrongs do not make a right.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33598 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:44 am to
The real problem hurting redfish is habitat degradation and LDWF has zero control over that
Posted by SilverPoon985
NE Pass / W Delta
Member since Jun 2025
51 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:54 am to
I'll be the first to stay--as part of the OB who calls out/dogs on CCA--I am glad to see CCA doing something that will hopefully help out redfish population. 

This gets a 10/10.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86252 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:49 am to
quote:

They opposed new creel limits for recreational fishermen because there was no action taken on pogie boats. If the LDWF is not going to be serious about the real problem kiling redfish, then why do we have to always be the ones giving it up?
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
11955 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:54 am to
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Tx has been stocking saltwater fish for decades. Part of the BP money was going to a hatchery at Calcasieu Pt but I assume that money was swept by the legislature for Ruth’s Cris steaks.


Correct BP was to pay for fish hatchery in Grand Isle and Calcasieu, but $$ got reapportioned. They were going to stock both speckled trout and redfish like Texas does.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23884 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:23 am to
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I don't disagree that significant action needs to be taken against the commercial fishery, however, two wrongs do not make a right.


It is a stance on principle. We know that pogie boats murder fish at rates beyond what recreational fishermen could possibly do.

I know you and that you are a catch and release guy. I have probably kept 5 reds in the past 5 years. Again, the constant criticism on CCA here is exhausting. You have to look at the whole picture. CCA's membership would be raising hell if CCA agreed to reduce the creel limits.

I am sorry you are using stocking (a good thing) to attack CCA on this one. It's not really a sequential argument, but you and Bluemoons do what ya'll do. I still consider you guys friends--we can disagree about this issue.
Posted by Royalfishing
Member since Jul 2023
232 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 11:15 am to
This is why I vote no on all taxes. The Mf just play bait and switch!
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
40457 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 11:29 am to
Have a kid and the limits won’t matter anymore.
Posted by SilverPoon985
NE Pass / W Delta
Member since Jun 2025
51 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 1:25 pm to
Not to put words in his mouth, but i am pretty sure his/BlueMoon's criticism is just stating/using CCA's discrepancy that in one hand 1) stating CCA is working to stock to increase numbers of fish--which insinuates there is a reduced population while 2) also opposing/refusing to take a position to reduce overharvest of a reduced population.

I think it's a valid issue to discuss and something whether between CCA higherups or average CCA members.

Criticism is also never a bad thing. If anything, a group/business should want it as to keep the group/business in line with interest of members/consumers. Complaining of too much criticism just means there's issues from the membership that aren't being addressed and/or the members feel they have left behind.

As noted above, I 10/10 approve of CCAs effort to restock, and appreciate it. But CCA needs to figure out if its goal is conserve the marine resource at all times--even when there is a fuss from members (who obviously will want no change but in reality will not stop paying to be CCA members) or CCA only wants to conserve marine resource when it fits its "members" --bc there's a difference.

It's these situations/discrepancies that keep ordinary recreational fisherman (like me) from wanting to donate more time/money to CCA.

This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23884 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 1:30 pm to
What organizations do what you want 100% of the time?
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
10500 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

The real problem hurting redfish is habitat degradation and LDWF has zero control over that


This right here. Had a conversation with a retired Marine biologist last week on this very subject. 90% of the issue is habitat.
Posted by SilverPoon985
NE Pass / W Delta
Member since Jun 2025
51 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 1:46 pm to
None of them do 100% of the time. it's insane to think anything/any group is 100%--plus noone expects CCA (or any group) to line up with them 100% of the time.

Only one that honestly lines up the most with me is Turkeys for Tomorrow (but that's another issue).

However, having discrepancies on one single issue (one hand doing one thing while the other does the opposite) is just another reason membership gives this much criticism. (i.e. CCA opposing decrease redfish limit while actively working to establishing a breeding program to address the decrease redfish population)

Every member i believe, just wants CCA to stop pussy footing around the hard topic issues and do whats best for the resource. Thats why we are members and pay to be members. If that means I only can been 4 reds and 15 specks thats great. if it means i can only keep 2 reds and 5 specks thats great.
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 1:54 pm
Posted by TunaTime
LA
Member since Aug 2012
780 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 2:24 pm to
Damn no mention of bowfishing yet, the OB is getting soft
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23884 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 2:27 pm to
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Every member i believe, just wants CCA to stop pussy footing around the hard topic issues and do whats best for the resource. Thats why we are members and pay to be members. If that means I only can been 4 reds and 15 specks thats great. if it means i can only keep 2 reds and 5 specks thats great.


Dude, it's like any any other conservation issue. The users are the best conservators. We keep giving up fish and we will have no more users.

No one duck hunted when you could kill 2. There is more to all of this than what Joe wants or what I want. I get what you want, but for every you, there is the guy that says he wants his 5 fish and still thinks the resource can be conserved.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12527 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:30 pm to
I wonder how much CCA is funding this restocking program.
Posted by chazzzz4
Member since Aug 2021
21 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:57 pm to
Any thoughts on if over time this starts to hurt the trout populations? I know that right now it wont be an issue but as these reds start to become bulls, I could see the bull red population getting extremely out of hand without even legally being allowed to keep 1. I would assume that the bull red population will dramatically increase in the near future with nobody keeping any of them. Any thoughts on if this will hurt the future trout populations?
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