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UL Monroe dropping Women's Tennis
Posted on 6/17/25 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 6/17/25 at 7:36 pm
I expect we will see more and more of this across the country
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 7:50 pm to cardswinagain
These players just needed money to buy a hamburger or something like that
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:12 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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These players just needed money to buy a hamburger or something like that
Has a single administrator taken a pay cut or has an athletic department cut costs to keep these sports?
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:15 pm to cardswinagain
To be fair this program was barely hanging on as is. Won a sunbelt title in 2017 I think, got rid of the coach after that season, and they’ve been shite ever since. I was friends with a couple girls on the team when I was there but if it wasn’t for that I would’ve forgot they existed. All internationals that mostly stayed in their circle.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:17 pm to Pedro
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All internationals
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:34 pm to Pedro
Don’t get me wrong I’m sad they got cut. I don’t want any athlete to go through that. But if one had to go it made the most sense.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:37 pm to cardswinagain
All the do-gooders and race-baiters who pushed all this NIL and portal shite will never acknowledge their part in destroying collegiate athletics. They’re like locusts. They’ll just move on to their next destructive crusade.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:42 pm to cardswinagain
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UL Monroe dropping Women's Tennis
The horror
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:47 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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All the do-gooders and race-baiters who pushed all this NIL and portal shite will never acknowledge their part in destroying collegiate athletics. They’re like locusts. They’ll just move on to their next destructive crusade.
Now let’s talk about the associate AD of women’s tennis at schools like A&M making $150k a year and having more than a dozen producers and content people. These schools can absolutely keep all sports funded it they eliminated useless positions and stopped overspending for no reason
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:52 pm to Pedro
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Won a sunbelt title in 2017 I think, got rid of the coach after that season,
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:52 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Do what now?
Now let’s talk about the associate AD of women’s tennis at schools like A&M making $150k
Posted on 6/17/25 at 9:04 pm to lsupride87
IDK what he’s talking about but Texas A&M is probably one of the 10 or 20 schools in America that isn’t in danger of having to cut sports. So it’s a bad example.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 9:12 pm to cardswinagain
Grant House needed 125k more than ulm needed a tennis team, apparently.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 9:35 pm to GeauxTigers123
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IDK what he’s talking about but Texas A&M is probably one of the 10 or 20 schools in America that isn’t in danger of having to cut sports. So it’s a bad example.
Iowa State made almost $11 million in 2023 and are crying poor about how they can’t afford to keep running the athletic department. They spent $40 million on athletic operations, not the teams themselves, the athletic department.
IOWA STATE
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:09 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Talking about cost-cutting/trimming athletic department bloat/reducing inefficiencies is akin to trying to close the barn door after the horse has bolted. Non-Revenue Sports are now expendable: it remains to be seen which ones will remain.
The person you originally replied to is correct: the proponents of player compensation (in any form) never paused to consider the costs and the inevitable consequences of what they were promoting. The people who raised legitimate concerns regarding this were subjected to ad hominem attacks which typically took the form of thinly veiled accusations of racism. Team Player Compensation never debated and won (on the merits).
Among the consequences of the House Settlement, NIL, and de facto free agency via the transfer portal is that non-revenue sports are going to get the chop. I'm assuming that the cuts are going to be made with Title IX compliance in consideration (i.e., equal # of scholarships for men's and women's athletics).
Schools are now incentivized to only retain certain men's sports and enough women's sports to balance out the number of scholarships.
Even if an athletic department could be reorganized to free up funding for a team or teams, what would the incentive to do so be?
The people who stood on the table for player compensation and stifled thoughtful debate on the matter certainly helped put the nail in the coffin for intercollegiate athletics. They'll never be held to account for what they did. I hope the dopamine effect of "feeling like a good person"/signaling their moral superiority was worth the 30 pieces of silver it cost.
The person you originally replied to is correct: the proponents of player compensation (in any form) never paused to consider the costs and the inevitable consequences of what they were promoting. The people who raised legitimate concerns regarding this were subjected to ad hominem attacks which typically took the form of thinly veiled accusations of racism. Team Player Compensation never debated and won (on the merits).
Among the consequences of the House Settlement, NIL, and de facto free agency via the transfer portal is that non-revenue sports are going to get the chop. I'm assuming that the cuts are going to be made with Title IX compliance in consideration (i.e., equal # of scholarships for men's and women's athletics).
Schools are now incentivized to only retain certain men's sports and enough women's sports to balance out the number of scholarships.
Even if an athletic department could be reorganized to free up funding for a team or teams, what would the incentive to do so be?
The people who stood on the table for player compensation and stifled thoughtful debate on the matter certainly helped put the nail in the coffin for intercollegiate athletics. They'll never be held to account for what they did. I hope the dopamine effect of "feeling like a good person"/signaling their moral superiority was worth the 30 pieces of silver it cost.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:13 pm to SHPMustang
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Among the consequences of the House Settlement, NIL, and de facto free agency via the transfer portal is that non-revenue sports are going to get the chop. I'm assuming that the cuts are going to be made with Title IX compliance in consideration (i.e., equal # of scholarships for men's and women's athletics).
The NCAA and administrators should have acted in good faith for the last 30-40 years and we would have never gotten to this point. They’re squarely to blame. Full stop
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The people who stood on the table for player compensation and stifled thoughtful debate on the matter certainly helped put the nail in the coffin for intercollegiate athletics. They'll never be held to account for what they did. I hope the dopamine effect of "feeling like a good person"/signaling their moral superiority was worth the 30 pieces of silver it cost.
There’s a place for interscholastic athletics that shouldn’t be revenue or profit driven… but stifling the earning of athletes totally irrespective of what’s happening on the field or even the university is totally is unamerican.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:36 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
The athletes are worth absolutely nothing without the schools
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:53 pm to cardswinagain
It's a shame that all of the poor girls across the country won't be able to play tennis in school so they can get drafted on professional tennis teams.
Who gives a shite really? Much bigger fish to fry in sports.
Who gives a shite really? Much bigger fish to fry in sports.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:22 pm to cardswinagain
Berry put the University in a hole by screwing up the deal with Elon wanting to purchase and use the old Centurylink headquarters from them. They lost out on a ton of money and is why he was shown the door.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:25 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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The NCAA and administrators should have acted in good faith for the last 30-40 years and we would have never gotten to this point. They’re squarely to blame. Full stop
They certainly have a significant percentage of the blame. They're not solely responsible. A lot of other folks and groups are also culpable.
I don't think you can ultimately reconcile intercollegiate (or "interscholastic" as you call it) athletics that prioritize the non-pecuniary goals of sport with intercollegiate athletics that focuses on money.
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but stifling the earning of athletes totally irrespective of what’s happening on the field or even the university is totally is unamerican.
The opportunity cost of this is the discontinuation of other sports, and taken to its inevitable conclusion, many smaller schools (D-II/FCS/mid-major) may do away with sports altogether. Ties that bind people to their alma mater or towns/regions to a school will be broken. I can't think of anything more antithetical to traditional american values than this.
On the other hand, a group claiming victimhood/oppression, and with the help of enablers, using the claim to obtain an advantage is pretty consistent with contemporary values in america since the civil rights era.
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