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1st pitch beach balls

Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Tigers4588
Member since Apr 2023
368 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:39 pm
Is this team taught to not swing at 1st pitch more so than not? It's an honest question - It almost seems like they're not even prepared to swing at the first pitch they just conced it. If that happens again they need to start taking those over the fence.

Jones needs to stop all the movement at the plate the bending backwards drifting back with the bat then slowly tilting up then slowly getting into position - it's bad enough we have several players who choke up several inches on a bat on the first pitch so you know they're not a threat.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11717 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Jones needs to stop all the movement at the plate the bending backwards drifting back with the bat then slowly tilting up then slowly getting into position


You are correct, the CWS is definitely the time and place to change your swing and stance that you have used all year.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
77980 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

it's bad enough we have several players who choke up several inches on a bat on the first pitch so you know they're not a threat.


Any hit is a threat with runners on.

Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

You are correct, the CWS is definitely the time and place to change your swing and stance that you have used all year.

May be worth a shot if it can get him out his slump
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22792 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:47 pm to
It's an approach and will change inning by inning/game by game. I suspect our gameplan going into the game on Saturday was to try to see a bunch of pitches and run Root's pitch count up early.

quote:

Jones needs to stop all the movement at the plate the bending backwards drifting back with the bat then slowly tilting up then slowly getting into position - it's bad enough we have several players who choke up several inches on a bat on the first pitch so you know they're not a threat.


Never mind. You're not serious.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:48 pm to
Jones should swing at every pitch and pray for a hit or just stand there and hope for a walk.

frick an “approach”
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13267 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Jones needs to stop all the movement at the plate the bending backwards drifting back with the bat then slowly tilting up then slowly getting into position - it's bad enough we have several players who choke up several inches on a bat on the first pitch so you know they're not a threat.


Here we frickin go


Okay Tigers4588 on tigerdroppings, I’m sure Mr. Jones really appreciates your hitting advice
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
102977 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:53 pm to
In a tournament for the national championship, I want the other teams to use as much pitching as possible. What are you not liking about getting the opposing starter out of the game earlier because of the pitch count?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33750 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:57 pm to
LSU is 11th in the nation in walks (though that number is a bit skewed because LSU has played more games than the majority of the teams in the NCAA). Still, getting on base via a walk is a big emphasis on offense. So to answer your question, yes, it does appear that LSU's approach is to take a lot of pitches.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
102977 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:00 pm to
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getting on base via a walk is a big emphasis on offense

We have some people saying the team can't hit worth shite. Seems like a good strategy to draw walks and try to get to the bullpen. It seems to be working well so far.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41783 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

s this team taught to not swing at 1st pitch more so than not? It's an honest question - It almost seems like they're not even prepared to swing at the first pitch they just conced it. If that happens again they need to start taking those over the fence.

Jones needs to stop all the movement at the plate the bending backwards drifting back with the bat then slowly tilting up then slowly getting into position - it's bad enough we have several players who choke up several inches on a bat on the first pitch so you know they're not a threat.


The main reason I find this hilarious is we had a board full of people pissing and moaning about Tommy White (and others ) swinging at the first pitch in 2023. Heck, we had folks doing that this year.

I do not think that Jay has a philosophy of swinging vs taking on the first swing, except possibly taking on the first at bat vs a pitcher, and I doubt it even then. If a pitcher is walking a lot of guys, I'm sure he may want people to take then because the philosophy is probably a situational one.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10790 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:10 pm to
There’s pros and cons to each approach. Taking pitches does run up the pitch count, but the negative is passing on the best pitch you’re going to get for the at bat. Players like Curiel can execute this because he has great bat to ball skills and a great sense of the strike zone. Others don’t and end up taking a strike down the middle and then striking out later on a ball well out of the zone
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
11744 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:14 pm to
quote:


Is this team taught to not swing at 1st pitch more so than not? It's an honest question - It almost seems like they're not even prepared to swing at the first pitch they just conced it. If that happens again they need to start taking those over the fence.


The wind is blowing in, it is going to be extremely hard to ride one out of the park. We work counts to get to the bullpen and look for pitches to drive. Pitchers are going to be throwing the ball to the top of the zone more due to the wind. If you hit the ball its going to be deep fly outs. Need to see the ball down and drive it. Conditions matter.

Also, even if the wind weren't blowing in, the team works counts. Some players are given special approval to swing at the first pitch but that is not every single player and we tend to do better when we drive up the pitch counts instead of just first pitch swinging.
Posted by Tigers4588
Member since Apr 2023
368 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:28 pm to
Honestly when you're missing the ball by 6 in off the end of the bat it can't really get any worse - it's sickening enough that he's still in the batting lineup.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1948 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Honestly when you're missing the ball by 6 in off the end of the bat it can't really get any worse - it's sickening enough that he's still in the batting lineup.


BOO. BOO THIS MAN!
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
87437 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56553 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 3:00 pm to
Thanks Tony Gwynn
Posted by Tigers4588
Member since Apr 2023
368 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 4:07 pm to
DTA !! Stone Cold!!! Stone Cold!!!!
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6636 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

You are correct, the CWS is definitely the time and place to change your swing and stance that you have used all year.

“You are correct, the national championship game is definitely the time to put in a freshman QB over Jalen Hurts.”

I would honestly tell him to cut it the frick out for one at bat and see how it goes. I’m not one to armchair coach regarding players’ mechanics and it normally drives me crazy when people do it because I know the coaches have a ton of data and experience that we don’t, but Jones looks like one of the worst batters in LSU history right now, he’s constantly getting completely embarrassed, and the back bend thing is objectively stupid and he looks uncomfortable.

Just remove that weird piece from the equation and see how it goes one time
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13267 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

1st pitch beach balls





60-70% of the first pitches from Arkansas were offspeed/breaking balls
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