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Why are people so certain Israel will defeat Iran or at least bring them to heel
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:14 pm
They struggled with 20-30k Hamas troops. Iran boasts just shy of 1M troops w/600k active duty.
Israel has 170k active duty troops with 465k reserves.
Population of Israel: 10M
Population of Iran: 91M
Math ain’t mathin’ here so why are you so confident? One beer per person please.
Israel has 170k active duty troops with 465k reserves.
Population of Israel: 10M
Population of Iran: 91M
Math ain’t mathin’ here so why are you so confident? One beer per person please.
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:15 pm to idlewatcher
They could nuke each other for all I care.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:16 pm to idlewatcher
This isn't a boots on the ground affair
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:16 pm to idlewatcher
Because they know DC wants another forever war.
Ukraine didn't workout for them.
Ukraine didn't workout for them.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:16 pm to idlewatcher
Having superior military equipment goes a long way
But if this turns into an all out war I don't have the slightest clue of how it ends
Israel also has ongoing conflicts in Gaza and Lebanon.
It will be interesting to see how it unfolds but I have a feeling hundreds of thousands will die
But if this turns into an all out war I don't have the slightest clue of how it ends
Israel also has ongoing conflicts in Gaza and Lebanon.
It will be interesting to see how it unfolds but I have a feeling hundreds of thousands will die
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:17 pm to idlewatcher
They’ve already neutered their nuclear program from the reports
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:17 pm to idlewatcher
Since Israel and Iran don’t border each other your math dosnt matter. It’s all about airpower where Israel holds a decisive edge.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:19 pm to Powerman
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It will be interesting to see how it unfolds but I have a feeling hundreds of thousands will die
Or it turns into a few days of bombing each other before returning to “normal”. They did this last year too
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:19 pm to wfallstiger
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This isn't a boots on the ground affair
Depends on how Iran wants to retaliate
Israel might not have intended for this to be a boots on ground affair but they don't make all the rules
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:20 pm to ReeseBobby
Iran has many Arab enemies who tacitly support the Israelis
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:20 pm to idlewatcher
They know they can drag the United States into it
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:20 pm to idlewatcher
Israel would need continued support from the US to sustain a longterm war with Iran and that would basically be the lend-lease problem that gets the United States brought into the war.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:22 pm to idlewatcher
Their fight against Hamas is unconventional and urban warfare. If they weren’t worried about killing civilians and the hostages, they could’ve ended Hamas by October 8.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:23 pm to ReeseBobby
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Since Israel and Iran don’t border each other your math dosnt matter. It’s all about airpower where Israel holds a decisive edge.
The odds are the US will not hesitate to resupply Israel with whatever they request or require.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:23 pm to Optimism
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Iran has many Arab enemies who tacitly support the Israelis
Many of these governments that lean Israeli are not really representative of their population's disposition on the matter. The big thing I've wondered about is if Israel getting into a protracted war with Iran could destabilize all these monarchies.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:28 pm to idlewatcher
Israel has more aircraft and more advanced aircraft than Iran including F-35s. They flew into downtown Tehran without being observed. Israel also flies the F-35 in “beast mode” with external arms. They also have F-15s which are still formidable aircraft.
Iran has Russian jets and still has obsolete US jets.
So in an air war Israel has a huge advantage. Neither country can project power so number of troops is meaningless.
Iran has Russian jets and still has obsolete US jets.
So in an air war Israel has a huge advantage. Neither country can project power so number of troops is meaningless.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:37 pm to idlewatcher
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They struggled with 20-30k Hamas troops. Iran boasts just shy of 1M troops w/600k active duty.
Will Iran be deploying their civilian population and blending the army in with them?
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:38 pm to idlewatcher
Because they know Israel has our politicians by the balls and we will save them
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:38 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Or it turns into a few days of bombing each other before returning to “normal”. They did this last year too
Certainly possible and probably the best outcome
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