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Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:19 pm
Posted by ShockG082
Member since Sep 2021
402 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:19 pm
Per our FPI ESPN calculates our wins at 7.9 with a 30% probability of making the playoffs.





Posted by OlDirtyTiger7
Member since Sep 2017
509 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:36 pm to
ESPN's FPI is literally just made up nonsense. It's consistently wrong about everything. If it said we had a 100% chance of winning it all, I would be very concerned.
Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
7637 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 12:09 am to
quote:

ESPN

Posted by LSUbacchus81
Hendersonville, TN
Member since Aug 2007
4737 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 12:17 am to
no you wouldn't
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
3456 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 4:47 am to
quote:

Per our FPI ESPN calculates our wins at 7.9 with a 30% probability of making the playoffs.


That’s spot on, ESPN got it right for once
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
78766 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 5:20 am to
Feldman was on the Russillo pod recently, they mentioned that at the end of last season, ESPN's FPI had Alabama at #4.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
57548 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 5:21 am to
That sounds about Brian Kelly
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5316 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 6:15 am to
quote:

ESPN's FPI is literally just made up nonsense. It's consistently wrong about everything


Didn’t the “fpi” have the LSU Tigers #2 even after beating Clemson in the championship game?

If I do remember correctly, I think that we should take espn and their fpi for what it is….internet trash.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
10810 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:00 am to
FPI ESPN apparently doesn’t do any kind of research or scouting on a current team. They just throw numbers out there according to what you’ve done previously. Who cares how much better you’ve gotten at practically every position with better players.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
75584 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:03 am to
Such a garbage “measure.” The 2019 team was predicted to lose several games all the way to going undefeated.

I never put much stock in it before, but that completely rendered the fpi as useless for me.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38542 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:27 am to
quote:

ESPN's FPI is literally just made up nonsense.


FPI is a reasonable method of judging the relative strengths of a program but it is not very objective early in the season or preseason. Once teams start playing and winning/losing, the picture clears up a bit.

LSU has the 12th highest RPI and the 11th highest Remaining SOS. Both of those are highly speculative right now and will change by midseason, maybe a lot.

So nonsense now, better later in the season.
Posted by holdem Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
1147 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:52 am to
quote:

So nonsense now, better later in the season.


So, explain being #2 after the 2019 season.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38542 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:07 am to
quote:

So, explain being #2 after the 2019 season.



Is #2 a reasonable estimate when you finish #1 based on metrics that don't look at specifically where you finished?
Posted by pitchandcatch27
Huntsville,AL
Member since Jul 2018
3177 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:11 am to
Brian Kelly, I say no more. You can have all the best players you can assemble. If you cannot coach them up makes no difference. 9-3 or 8-4 and CBK is in the hot seat.
Posted by holdem Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
1147 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:10 pm to
No. We crushed everyone. There was only one reasonable rank.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38542 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 8:36 am to
quote:

No. We crushed everyone. There was only one reasonable rank.


So what you are saying is you don't understand how the RPI is calculated. Got it.

Here is the general way it is done. Note that margin of victory is not used in the calculation and the constant B (OWP which is effectively the SOS) is typically weighted higher than constants A & C which are typically weighted the same as each other.

RPI = (A x WP) + (B x OWP) + (C x OOWP)

A, B, & C are weighting constants determining what impact each component has on the final number.

Winning Percentage (WP): This is calculated by dividing the number of wins by the total number of games played.

Opponents' Winning Percentage (OWP): This is the average of the winning percentages of a team's opponents.

Opponents' Opponents' Winning Percentage (OOWP): This is the average of the winning percentages of the opponents of a team's opponents.

Of course that is if you really want to know rather than just piss and moan.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13703 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 8:43 am to
ESPN’s FPI is simply another tool used to evaluate teams. They use specific data and formulas to come up with their predictions. It’s not a guarantee. For some teams it ends up being accurate, for some teams it ends up being way off. But it takes out the subjectivity that you get with predictions from all these different people. It’s strictly based on data and numbers. For reference, before the start of last season, they predicted LSU to win 7.8 games.
This post was edited on 6/6/25 at 8:46 am
Posted by holdem Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
1147 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Of course that is if you really want to know rather than just piss and moan


I could dig into the formula as you have to find out why it's shite. I just don't care.
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
Member since Jan 2006
5786 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:27 am to
A few years ago, the FPI had Mississippi State in the preseason Top 10. I don't know if that has come out this year, but it's always squirrelly.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32209 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:37 am to
The Clemson game is the fulcrum game. Get that one, then LSU has to go 9-2 the rest of the way to reach the CFP. That's very doable

Lose at Clemson and the road gets much tougher. LSU will likely need to go 10-1 the rest of the way considering three 9-3 SEC teams were left out of the CFP last year and only 1 SEC team lost fewer than 2 conference games.
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