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Is Israel pretty much done? Seems they've lost all credibility

Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:32 pm
The type of propaganda they use may have worked years ago but with an almost infinite amount of non traditional media their lies and propaganda are all unraveling

Trump seems to be largely ignoring them in our talks with other nations which is encouraging

We'll lose whatever credibility we have also if we continue to ally ourselves with Israel IMO. We're currently on the wrong side of history but if we can distance our support for the Israelis we might be able to save some face.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:36 pm to
They’ve certainly lost their victim status.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:36 pm to
That's why they're doubling down so hard on labeling any dissent as antisemitism. Our federal government under presidencies of two different parties have gone out of their way to carry water for Israel. Biden and Trump admins have laundered the false equivalency of disagreeing with the state of Israel and antisemitism.

The public opinion of Israel is turning against them and the demographics suggest that their ardent supporters - even amongst the Jewish in the US - are on the dying side of the curve.
Posted by TankBoys32
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:36 pm to
Folks are starting to wake up to their BS, even some of the older Christians who were brainwashed to think the modern country of Israel was still somehow the same people as the ancient tribes detailed in the Bible. Once the older generation is gone that sympathy and support is gonna dry up hard for them
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:37 pm to
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Is Israel pretty much done? Seems they've lost all credibility


This is what people were saying in 1970.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:38 pm to
Israel is wreckless but Hamas and others attacked them first. As for us, we just need to stay out of these conflicts and let our partners handle their own issues.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:38 pm to
It's why Big Con is working overtime right now trying to do damage control

Clay & Buck, Hannity, etc. are all heavily sponsored by IFCJ
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:38 pm to
I've been trying to tell people on this board that the rest of the planet sees this conflict differently than the US/UK/Israel. Well, the British press seems to have turned.
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Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:38 pm to
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pretty much done
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lost all credibility
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Powerman
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:39 pm to
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Biden and Trump admins have laundered the false equivalency of disagreeing with the state of Israel and antisemitism.


Well you do have people condemning Jews, not Israel.

This is just a fact. All you have to do is read this board.





Posted by maizegoblue
Florida
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:39 pm to
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We're currently on the wrong side of history


What is the “right side”?
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:39 pm to
Israel certainly isn’t “done.”
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:39 pm to
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Israel is wreckless but Hamas and others attacked them first.

And of course Israel lied to make the attacks seem much more brutal than they were. When a country is always lying about everything it makes you wonder why.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:40 pm to
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What is the “right side”?

Not the one engaging in ethnic cleansing that's for sure
Posted by maizegoblue
Florida
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:41 pm to
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Powerman


Power bottom never had any credibility, so he never had any to lose.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:41 pm to
From the river to the sea.

Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:41 pm to
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And of course Israel lied to make the attacks seem much more brutal than they were. When a country is always lying about everything it makes you wonder why.


Hamas used fan kites to invade Israel and went door to door and a festival slaughtering ppl. You’re a retard.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:42 pm to
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Israel is wreckless but Hamas and others attacked them first. As for us, we just need to stay out of these conflicts and let our partners handle their own issues.



When you turn a small area into a glorified open-air prison because you want them to die so you can take their land, shouldn't be surprised when the cornered, injured animal acts fiercely. There are no good guys in this conflict. Acting like Hamas "started it" is ignoring every tit for tat misdeed and misadventure each side has done preceding it.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:42 pm to
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Well you do have people condemning Jews, not Israel.

This is just a fact. All you have to do is read this board.

But criticism of Israel isn't the same as criticism of Jews. They're quick to claim victim status but I don't think it's working any more. People are seeing through these tactics.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89313 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:42 pm to
The Arab revolts started before Israel was even a state.

Then after Israel res recognized as a country they started a war and lost.


They started this shite and have not stopped. I don’t blame Israel for hating its neighbors.


The Arabs could have ended this decades ago.

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