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The NFL isn't college football's friend - it's the greatest threat to the CFP schedule
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:25 pm
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We’re not seeing big picture here. We’re slogging through the minutia of the college football postseason instead of dealing with the big, bad shield in the room.
The NFL shield.
So while college football’s power brokers are busy arguing straight seeding, first-round byes, campus sites and who will choose the expected 16-team College Football Playoff field, they’re ignoring the greatest threat to the ever-evolving system that decided a national champion.
The NFL’s television schedule structure is in direct competition with the College Football Playoff. That means decreased ratings, and decreased growth for a sport trying to develop a new postseason format.
This season alone, critical division matchups between the Philadelphia Eagles and Washington Commanders and Green Bay Packers and Chicago Bears, fall on the same Saturday as three first-round games.
No matter how important or intriguing those first-round College Football Playoff matchups prove to be, they’ll be dwarfed by critical December NFL games — just like last year’s three first-round games in the same window.
And lost television ratings and growth means lost millions from future media rights deals — the very reason university presidents blew up the original four-team CFP in the first place.
“My hope is there are ways around it,” said Florida State athletic director Mike Alford.
Yeah, well, hope is not a plan. Leverage is.
I’ve said it over and over, and will say it again: college football has leverage on the NFL. College football is the free minor league system for the NFL.
If the NFL wants to keep benefiting from that free system – I don’t think this can be underscored enough, free – it’s time to treat college football as a partner. Not like old gum on the bottom of the NFL sneaker.
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Anyone else find it odd that college football is swimming in paradigm change over the last four seasons, in danger of the whole thing falling apart, and the NFL has been eerily quiet about the entire mess?
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:29 pm to RLDSC FAN
It's very annoying that CFP games are on weekdays
Quarters: Wednesday 31 Dec/Thursday 1 Jan
Semis: Thursday Jan 8/Friday 9 Jan
Final: Monday 19 Jan
Quarters: Wednesday 31 Dec/Thursday 1 Jan
Semis: Thursday Jan 8/Friday 9 Jan
Final: Monday 19 Jan
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:31 pm to RLDSC FAN
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, in danger of the whole thing falling apart
College football is falling apart? Coulda fooled me.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:39 pm to RLDSC FAN
College football is ruined now. NFL can do whatever it wants until CFB returns to a real governed product.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:43 pm to RLDSC FAN
I can't figure out the NFL's attitude toward college football. They act as a free developmental league for the NFL - guys polish their skills and build a name for themselves that the pros can capitalize on. And they do this aggressive scheduling crap. I mean, putting Eagles-Commanders and Packers-Bears against first round games? It seems to me they're hurting themselves too - they better hope there's not a sexy national matchup like Alabama-Ohio State or Georgia-Michigan or Notre Dame-Texas going on in the first round.
Joel Klatt or Josh Pate has said several times that the NFL and college football need to work out a deal especially with the championship game - the college championship game should be the Saturday night of wild card weekend and it ought to cap off a tripleheader of games. And you could promote the Sunday and Monday playoff games during the championship game.
Joel Klatt or Josh Pate has said several times that the NFL and college football need to work out a deal especially with the championship game - the college championship game should be the Saturday night of wild card weekend and it ought to cap off a tripleheader of games. And you could promote the Sunday and Monday playoff games during the championship game.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:52 pm to RLDSC FAN
Cfb encroached on the NFL’s territory here. The NFL has played Saturday games in mid-late December for decades.
I’m not trying to defend the NFL as a pure, selfless entity. The NBA ruled Christmas Day, and the NFL has clearly shown how much it cares about that in recent years. And when NYD is a Sunday, the NFL has always won that battle, with the cfb bowls being on 01/02.
But cfb chose it was worth it to have its first-round games at a day/time when the NFL has traditionally played. We’ll see if that lasts.
I’m not trying to defend the NFL as a pure, selfless entity. The NBA ruled Christmas Day, and the NFL has clearly shown how much it cares about that in recent years. And when NYD is a Sunday, the NFL has always won that battle, with the cfb bowls being on 01/02.
But cfb chose it was worth it to have its first-round games at a day/time when the NFL has traditionally played. We’ll see if that lasts.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:52 pm to RLDSC FAN
It would actually be awesome if a lot of the money left college football and it became more of a niche sport again. Let the nfl take up all the tv money and maybe all of the problems with modern college football will start to go away.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:03 pm to DalenSA
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Quarters: Wednesday 31 Dec/Thursday 1 Jan
Semis: Thursday Jan 8/Friday 9 Jan
Final: Monday 19 Jan
College football was a game played on Saturdays and New Year's Day for almost all of its existence. #sigh
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:20 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Anyone else find it odd that college football is swimming in paradigm change over the last four seasons, in danger of the whole thing falling apart
A Bama fan had to have written this article.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:45 pm to TackySweater
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College football is falling apart? Coulda fooled me.
the sport itself is in shambles but the money pouring in by the billions is more than ever. That should be alarming but for many people it isn't.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:16 pm to RLDSC FAN
Good. Hopefully the 1st round CFP rating suck and they keep getting ugly blowouts to the point where it makes the power brokers reconsider any expansion ideas and hopefully downsize the playoff to 8 teams.
We shouldn't have to deal with arguments about whether the 5th or 6th place team in a conference is deserving of a playoff spot after they went 8-4 and beat up on the bottom half of their conference, a couple G5 / FCS non-conference teams, and went 1-4 against ranked teams on their schedule.
We shouldn't have to deal with arguments about whether the 5th or 6th place team in a conference is deserving of a playoff spot after they went 8-4 and beat up on the bottom half of their conference, a couple G5 / FCS non-conference teams, and went 1-4 against ranked teams on their schedule.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:16 pm to WG_Dawg
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the sport itself is in shambles but the money pouring in by the billions is more than ever. That should be alarming but for many people it isn't.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:20 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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Cfb encroached on the NFL’s territory here. The NFL has played Saturday games in mid-late December for decades.
I’m not trying to defend the NFL as a pure, selfless entity. The NBA ruled Christmas Day, and the NFL has clearly shown how much it cares about that in recent years. And when NYD is a Sunday, the NFL has always won that battle, with the cfb bowls being on 01/02.
But cfb chose it was worth it to have its first-round games at a day/time when the NFL has traditionally played. We’ll see if that lasts.
This. Not to mention, all of the non-campus playoff sites, aside from the Rose Bowl (who hasn't hosted a championship since the BCS era), host NFL teams who don't want scheduling conflicts for potential home playoff games.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:56 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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Cfb encroached on the NFL’s territory here. The NFL has played Saturday games in mid-late December for decades.
The only reason they are playing on Saturday's is bc CFB regular season historically has been wrapped up by that point in the year. Saturday is for college football. NFL is encroaching on CFB here, first example is by taking away big time Thursday night games, and now this by competing against Saturday postseason cfb games.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:59 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Anyone else find it odd that college football is swimming in paradigm change over the last four seasons, in danger of the whole thing falling apart, and the NFL has been eerily quiet about the entire mess?
There's no way the NFL hasn't been at the table during the last 5 years as CFB has looked like it was going off the rails.
A Supermarket inspects the Meat distributor.
Or controls their supply chain, one way or another.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:26 pm to RLDSC FAN
CFB needs to just drop a bye week and wrap it up at New Years. Based on this year's calendar:
Week 1 - weekend of August 30
Week 13 (rivalry weekend) - weekend of November 22
Conference championship games weekend of November 29
1st round games December 5 and 6 (one Friday night game)
2nd round games December 12 and 13
Semifinals December 20
CFP New Years Day
All playoff games aside from the championship are on campus.
Week 1 - weekend of August 30
Week 13 (rivalry weekend) - weekend of November 22
Conference championship games weekend of November 29
1st round games December 5 and 6 (one Friday night game)
2nd round games December 12 and 13
Semifinals December 20
CFP New Years Day
All playoff games aside from the championship are on campus.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:36 pm to WG_Dawg
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the sport itself is in shambles but the money pouring in by the billions is more than ever.
The amateur model of the sport collapsed under the weight of money as we all knew it inevitably would.
The sport is fine. It’s just changed. To today’s college students who grew up with millionaire TikTok influencers it’s not off-putting for a star QB known around the country to make bank, transfer around, etc.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:09 pm to RLDSC FAN
There is no honor amongst thieves.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:58 pm to RLDSC FAN
I seriously don't understand why the NFL hasn't started its own developmental league to put college football out of its misery. Look at what the Canadians have in junior hockey, it's the reason why college hockey is obnoxiously small time as they can't compete with the juniors in Canada.
Its not like the NFL doesn't have the money to start it - everything they do gets eyeballs. End the nonstop b.s. with the NCAA and set some structure to the eventual professional development.
Its not like the NFL doesn't have the money to start it - everything they do gets eyeballs. End the nonstop b.s. with the NCAA and set some structure to the eventual professional development.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:59 pm to Globetrotter747
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The amateur model of the sport collapsed under the weight of money as we all knew it inevitably would.
Money didn’t kill the amateur model, courts did
What the NFL is concerned about is not competition for tv viewers, it’s competition for billionaire investors (the prospective team owners) who get into college ball but aren’t quite rich enough to go for NFL team ownership.
Make no mistake, T. Boone Pickens would have owned Oklahoma State like Jerry Jones owned the Cowboys. You have your powerhouses, but the next tier of teams are attractive to the billionaires who’ll finance them to get to that level
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