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Zelensky's Power and War are spiraling Out of Control

Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:10 pm
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
14714 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:10 pm
No wonder Zelensky is begging for a Ceasefire. You could smell the desperation from him and other EU leaders when begging for a Ceasefire. Now we know why






"Zelensky's power and war are spiraling out of control.

For the first time, combat commander of the Ukrainian army Shirshin resigned, stating the reasons:

- incompetent leadership of the army and the country
- war turned into a "political game"
- senseless losses of soldiers and territory
- total failure at the front"




This post was edited on 5/17/25 at 8:16 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84768 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:13 pm to
Poor OTL bros
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
14994 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:14 pm to
This “war” has been over for quite a while
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
27068 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:15 pm to
Was it ever in “control”?
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6521 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:16 pm to
Zelensky is hitting on 20 at this point. He has no leverage in negotiations. Almost like hes saying screw it. If he can't get all his land back hes willing to lose it all.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21726 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:16 pm to
He is a money/power hungry shrimp! He needs to be removed, and fast.
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6463 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

This “war” has been over for quite a while


Population of Ukraine: 40 million

Population of Russia: 145 million

It was over before it started. With no country willing to send troops to help Ukraine, they didn't stand a chance. Putin holds all the cards.

Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4185 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:23 pm to
Too bad, soo sad.
Next time, don't trust a fat American liberal woman or the cia.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
14714 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

Putin holds all the cards.



Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
1002 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:15 pm to
He should have listened to Trump instead of throwing a fit.
Posted by Jimmyboy
Member since May 2025
125 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:49 pm to
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
482 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:38 am to
quote:

Population of Ukraine: 40 million

Population of Russia: 145 million



Population of Ukraine currently is like 20 million. It's really over now.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
32940 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:44 am to
Their biggest mistake was not recruiting from the OT Call of Duty Obesity brigade. They have been ready to fight.
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 12:45 am
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
2768 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 2:10 am to
That spring offensive was a really dumb move. (Given the metrics of the combatants particularly in manpowr) Z should have stayed defensive the entire time unless you have a really good opportunity to move the line significantly.

He took the Western tanks and threw them at the most heavily defended area of the line thinking the tanks were going to slice through multiple Russian defensive lines built up for months. Idiot.

Then a pointless offense into Russia itself. Makes for great headlines but had no effect on actually winning the war and bringing Russia to the table.

You win wars by killing a lot of their soldiers and minimizing your losses. Losses are lower for defending and higher for attacking. There is also a large disparity in population. Russia can afford to be attackers coupled with the fact that they accept casualties much easier.

Everything pointed to the best strategy being defensive. Kill as many Russians as you can. Make them pay dearly for every town but then fall back.

Ukraine needs the kill ratio to be very high.

Without manpower to overwhelm on attack, they should be 100% defensive. That’s what they did at the beginning and smoked the Russians.

The Ukrainians have done well but that doesn’t mean they are on a path to victory right now. Z needs to be pragmatic about this.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
3300 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 2:18 am to
The money dried up and likewise its support.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
482 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 2:44 am to
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That’s what they did at the beginning and smoked the Russians. The Ukrainians have done well


Both are fallacies pushed by the media. Ukraine lost massive positions early in the war and casualties were on par. Check body exchange stats. It was even in the war, now it's 15:1 in favor of Russia. That's 15 Ukrainian bodies returned for 1 Russian body.

Ukraine did an idiotic telegraphed attack in 2023 losing huge number of armor and infantry. It was at that point key hunchos in Ukraine knew Ukraine will lose. Then they tried to hold little small island "Krynki" in Kherson killing 1000 of their men with several more missing in boat crossings. It had little to no strategic value and was impossible to supply or defend due to drones and mortars. Then they did Kursk incursion which went well at first and then they got pounded to crap and Russians sneaked in their back through a damn pipe.

Same pipe story was in Avdiivka and Ukrainians "defended till the end" there too till it was too late and Russians penetrated their rear. Same as Bakhmtu and same as Mariupol. They always held on for too long and made PR moves instead of strategically smart decisions.

This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 2:50 am
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
17011 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:33 am to
I feel really bad for all the lives lost to such a senseless war. All at the hands of 2 men
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
61444 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:44 am to
Has anyone answered yet as to why there's so little video or media coverage of this war? Does anyone actually know specifically where these battles are being fought? Or hard evidence of the millions of soldiers they claim are being killed?

All I've really seen are a few GoPro clips and Zelensky flying freely around the world in his pristine fatigues.
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