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Past 20 No. 7 Overall Picks

Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:04 am
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41103 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:04 am
Trail Blazers
Donovan Clingan
Trail Blazers
Trail Blazers
2024

Wizards
Bilal Coulibaly
Wizards
Wizards
2023

Trail Blazers
Shaedon Sharpe
Trail Blazers
Trail Blazers
2022

Warriors
Jonathan Kuminga
Warriors
Warriors
2021

Pistons
Killian Hayes
Pistons
Pistons
2020

Bulls
Coby White
Bulls
Bulls
2019

Bulls
Wendell Carter Jr.
Bulls
Bulls
2018

Timberwolves
Lauri Markkanen
Timberwolves
Timberwolves
2017

Nuggets
Jamal Murray
Nuggets
Nuggets
2016

Nuggets
Emmanuel Mudiay
Nuggets
Nuggets
2015

Lakers
Julius Randle
Lakers
Lakers
2014

Kings
Ben McLemore
Kings
Kings
2013

Warriors
Harrison Barnes
Warriors
Warriors
2012

Kings
Bismack Biyombo
Kings
Kings
2011

Pistons
Greg Monroe
Pistons
Pistons
2010

Warriors
Stephen Curry
Warriors
Warriors
2009

Clippers
Eric Gordon
Clippers
Clippers
2008

Timberwolves
Corey Brewer
Timberwolves
Timberwolves
2007

Celtics
Randy Foye
Celtics
Celtics
2006

Raptors
Charlie Villanueva
Raptors
Raptors
2005
Posted by rondo
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Member since Jan 2004
77480 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:07 am to
So you're saying we're getting the next Steph Curry!?!
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
18215 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:30 am to
No, but hopefully a happy Eric Gordon
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28704 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:44 am to
so maybe 5 of the 20 provided value to the team that drafted them, while the rest did much of nothing? Awesome. That's why we should be trading this pick. 25% chance of drafting someone valuable isn't great odds to me. As I said before, if we are keeping Zion, then build a winning team around him with the assets you have to win now.


Kuminga has value, I guess, but the Warriors have done a terrible job with him
Coby White has value now, but it took a 5 years for that to happen.
Barnes gave the Warriors good years, but they let him walk (to get KD).
Murray and Curry obviously have value.
Egghead gave the Clippers value to get CP3

Markannen was traded for much of nothing.
Randle wasn't resigned
The rest aren't any good
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25960 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:04 pm to
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so maybe 5 of the 20 provided value to the team that drafted them, while the rest did much of nothing? Awesome. That's why we should be trading this pick. 25% chance of drafting someone valuable isn't great odds to me. As I said before, if we are keeping Zion, then build a winning team around him with the assets you have to win now.



That's easy to say, but you have to have a trade partner that values that #7 pick more than you do.
Posted by AD23
Lab
Member since Jun 2012
1154 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Past 20 No. 7 Overall Picks



Posted by LuzianaFootball
DC
Member since Dec 2008
8027 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:28 pm to
Trade it
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
2139 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:54 pm to
I’d like to get one of those guards Tre Johnson, Fears, or Kon.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
17539 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:23 pm to
frick yeah! Another journeyman inbound!
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
17539 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Trade it


Along with Zion for a pair of Z Cavariccis
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
6646 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

so maybe 5 of the 20 provided value to the team that drafted them, while the rest did much of nothing?


Way more than 5 of these guys provided value.
Posted by MasterAbe1
Member since Oct 2016
5906 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:52 pm to
We’ll hope for Steph Curry and end up with Pistons legend Charlie Villanueva.
Posted by six4lsu
Member since Sep 2009
326 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:09 pm to
You could do this for number 5. It's a crapshoot. The higher you are obviously you have better odds of hitting but nothing is a guarantee.

2024
Ron Holland II
Detroit Pistons
2023
Ausar Thompson
Detroit Pistons
2022
Jaden Ivey
Detroit Pistons
2021
Jalen Suggs
Orlando Magic
2020
Isaac Okoro
Cleveland Cavaliers
2019
Darius Garland
Cleveland Cavaliers
2018
Trae Young
Dallas Mavericks
2017
De’Aaron Fox
Sacramento Kings
2016
Kris Dunn
Minnesota Timberwolves
2015
Mario Hezonja
Orlando Magic
2014
Dante Exum
Utah Jazz
2013
Alex Len
Phoenix Suns
2012
Thomas Robinson
Sacramento Kings
2011
Jonas Valanciunas
Toronto Raptors
2010
DeMarcus Cousins
Sacramento Kings
2009
Ricky Rubio
Minnesota Timberwolves
2008
Kevin Love
Memphis Grizzlies
2007
Jeff Green
Boston Celtics
2006
Shelden Williams
Atlanta Hawks
2005
Raymond Felton
Charlotte Bobcats
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28704 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Way more than 5 of these guys provided value.



what are you calling value?
Is Jordan Hawkins providing value to the Pelicans? Is he a critical piece to our success (trick question b/c we haven't had any)? Can he be traded for a 1st round pick or more?
Now ask the same questions about Trey Murphy. Trey has value. Herb has value. Dyson had value, although i think we all would agree we thought he was worth more than what he was traded for.

Name me the guys on that list that could have fetched a 1st round pick in a trade at some point during their first 4 years in the league with their original team. That's what I was doing.
Curry and Murray obviously
Egghead could have
Barnes could have
Kuminga should be able to
Coby White probably couldn't have when he signed his extension. he definitely could now.
Markannen and Randle had their rookie contracts expire. So did Greg Monroe. Their teams got nothing for them when they left.
WCJ was traded with 2 first round picks and Otto Porter for Vucevic after 2 yeas in Chicago. I guess you could say he had about the same value as Dyson just did.


The point I was making is that the team drafting all of these guys at 7 didn't really get any value from the vast majority of them. Just b/c Markannen and Randle and even guys like Corey Brewer and Greg Monroe, or even Biyambo played for a long time and contributed to teams later in their career, they still didn't really do anything to help out the team that drafted them. Helping out in terms of winning games or recouping assets in a trade.


I see no point in making this pick at 7. And i see the majority of you disagree with this as you have some hope we'll luck into Curry or Jamal Murray, and I get that, but the overwhelming odds are we'll draft someone who won't help us win over the next 4 years and won't have value as a trade piece either.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38544 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 11:02 am to
That's honestly better than I expected. If you do spots 3-6 it isn't going to look THAT much better.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3907 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 12:04 pm to
Trading the pick is also not a sure thing. See the Dejounte Murray trade.

There’s risk both ways
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28704 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Trading the pick is also not a sure thing. See the Dejounte Murray trade.




Yes it is a sure thing. Saying the trade didn't work out b/c he got a freak injury, two of them actually, is silly. Are you going to say making the pick didn't work out if the draft pick tears his ACL 2 weeks into the season?

You know Murray is a fringe all-star caliber player, that's the sure thing. If you were to trade the pick, you would be trading it for a player that you already know is a successful starter in the league. The odds of getting a starter in the trade is 100%. The odds of getting a starter in the draft is 40% at absolute best.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3907 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Yes it is a sure thing. Saying the trade didn't work out b/c he got a freak injury, two of them actually, is silly. Are you going to say making the pick didn't work out if the draft pick tears his ACL 2 weeks into the season? You know Murray is a fringe all-star caliber player, that's the sure thing. If you were to trade the pick, you would be trading it for a player that you already know is a successful starter in the league. The odds of getting a starter in the trade is 100%. The odds of getting a starter in the draft is 40% at absolute best.


So every trade works out? Just because you’re trading for a proven guy doesn’t mean the trade works out. NBA history is littered with bad trades.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28704 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

So every trade works out? Just because you’re trading for a proven guy doesn’t mean the trade works out. NBA history is littered with bad trades.




Dejounte Murray is a great example.
Did the trade to Atlanta work out? not really. What did ATL give up to get Murray?
2023 protected Hornets 1st that was always going to be 2 future 2nds.
2025 unprotected ATL 1st (pick 14)
2026 pick swap
2027 unprotected ATL 1st


basically 2 decent firsts and a pick swap which looks like won't be much of a swap


pairing Murray with Trae didn't really work out, so they traded him b/c he still held value, something a draft bust wont' do.
What did ATL get back?
Dyson Daniels
2025 1st (pick 22)
2027 1st (hopefully not a lottery pick)


So did they make a trade and get absolutely nothing in return b/c it didn't work out like you would if you drafted a bust?
Even when you make a trade for a top tier guy and it doesn't really work out, you still get to recover your assets you traded away b/c that player is more than likely still going to have near that same value.


I"m not asking to make a trade using #7 for Rui Hachimura, or Brandon Clarke. I"m asking to use the &7 pick (and more) to make a trade for someone like Bam, or Jarrett Allen or JJJ. Hell I'd still go after Markannen if the Jazz wanted #7. Maybe they could use 5 and 7 to move up if they really wanted to. I do not believe the Jazz actually want to keep Markannen. They just didn't get the deal they wanted to last year to move him. He doesn't fit their timeline.
CJ/Olynyk/#7 for Markannen
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20011 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:52 pm to
Zion is 100% too unreliable to be a franchise player.
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