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Questioning the Qatar airplane donation

Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:56 am
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:56 am
Erik Erickson raises some good points in looking at this deal.

First he points out Qatar is not our friend:

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Qatar is not our friend. Many in Washington treat Qatar the way they used to treat China — as a friendly trading partner. Qatar has been a safe haven for Hamas. It has alienated itself from its neighbors, our real Middle Eastern allies, by collaborating with Iran. It has provided safe haven to Al Qaeda terrorists. It has funded jihadis around the world. It has funded the antisemitic protests on college campuses on the United States. It has funded Al Jazeera and other pro-jihadi propaganda outlets. Qatar is, right now, throwing money at American universities in the way China has done with its Confucius Institutes. Qatar has funded jihadists who have kidnapped and murdered Americans.


Indeed, Trump once said Qatar "is a funder of terrorism at a very high level."

Erickson next puts a good bit of the blame where it belongs: Boeing.
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There is, however, more to the story than Qatar trying to bribe Donald Trump and ABC News glosses over the actual reason for the transaction.

This is happening because the United States Government has continued to coddle and subsidize Boeing for so long, that Boeing behaves as sclerotic and inefficient as our federal government. It is behind on delivering a new Air Force One. Its latest space-capade was a boondoggle. Boeing is an institution in need of serious reform and its failures have led the President in the direction of this Qatari plane, which the Qatari Royal Family intended to divest anyway.

The current 747 used as Air Force One was commissioned by President Ronald Reagan in 1985. Pay attention to the timeline. Boeing built the plane in 1986. It took its first test flight in 1987. It became Air Force One in 1990 with President George H. W. Bush.

Donald Trump commissioned the new Air Force One during his first term in 2018. It has still not been built. So the President of the United States is flying on a thirty-nine-year-old Boeing 747 and, due to delays, President Trump might finish his second term before the new 747 makes its first test flight. Boeing now does not expect delivery until 2029.

With Qatar divesting its 747-800 anyway, President Trump has commissioned a defense contractor to refurbish the plane in an expedited manner. This was all covered ten days ago by the Wall Street Journal without ABC News and Jon Karl’s salacious spin. The New York Times likewise covered the story as part of President Trump’s frustrations with Boeing.


Oh yes, Bondi got over $100,000 per month to lobby for Qatar once.
This post was edited on 5/12/25 at 11:20 am
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:57 am to
They had better case the entire plane for listening devices
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:58 am to
O'bidens probably cancelled the contract to funnel more cash to theUkraine/Usaid/Ufags movement.
Posted by keks tadpole
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:59 am to
how much did Qatar give the Clinton Foundation as a birthday present to Bill?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:59 am to
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Oh yes, Bondi got over $100,000 to lobby for Qatar once.


Per month
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:00 am to
You blew Hunter Biden you might want to set this one out Rexcatur.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:03 am to
This kind of stuff must infuriate you. I’m sure you already posted about how Trump makes Hunter Biden look like child’s play. Surely.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:03 am to
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They had better case the entire plane for listening devices
Agree but I'm more worried than that. Long ago I had a vivid dream that he went down in his plane and it woke me right up. Maybe I'm trippin.
Posted by CueBacca
Member since May 2025
192 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:04 am to
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Oh yes, Bondi got over $100,000 to lobby for Qatar once.


Not exactly swamp draining.

And what about Trumps $5.5B resort deal finalized just a month ago?





Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:05 am to
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This kind of stuff must infuriate you.
Naw man I love when clowns like you come a runnin!

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I’m sure you already posted about how Trump makes Hunter Biden look like child’s play. Surely.

Not even close Broheem.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:06 am to
So then you’re trolling as usual. Never change.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8313 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:10 am to
All the hand wringing over Trump when both sides of the aisle are fleecing all of us.

Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
78206 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:13 am to
Why would I be trolling about a jet given to the DOD?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66829 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:14 am to
quote:

This is happening because the United States Government has continued to coddle and subsidize Boeing for so long, that Boeing behaves as sclerotic and inefficient as our federal government. It is behind on delivering a new Air Force One. Its latest space-capade was a boondoggle. Boeing is an institution in need of serious reform and its failures have led the President in the direction of this Qatari plane, which the Qatari Royal Family intended to divest anyway.

Yet, Donald and the crew still gave them $20 Billion to design and build our next generation fighter jets.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:15 am to
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They had better case the entire plane for listening devices
They will be doing much much more than that
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
13509 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:16 am to
I agree, we shaint accept gifts from such miscreants.


Now please donate your luxe 747 for refurbishment and use as Airforce 1.


Thank you for your attention on this matter.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:17 am to
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All the hand wringing over Trump when both sides of the aisle are fleecing all of us.



There are a lot of fair angles on this.

I agree with you. I agree the other side (and our own side, MAGA and not) are corrupted. I agree that it's hard to fight the opposition with neutrality and without bending rules (see the lawfare issues). But, I also see the argument that when we perpetuate the gray area stuff to our benefit we're just deepening the hole.

Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:19 am to
If this is a bribe what is Qatar getting in return?
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
23011 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:21 am to
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They had better case the entire plane for listening devices

My guess is that it will be stripped down to the frame and completely refitted. Not much room to hide in that process.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
62718 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:23 am to
I haven't paid attention to the plane thing, but Don, Jr. starting a club in D.C. and charging $500k is not a good look when the right just spent 5-10 years complaining that Hunter Biden sold access.

My mom has terrible TDS and was whining that the Trump kids are selling crytpo all over the middle east. I'm not sure if that's true, but this does get in to some tricky ethical issues of what normal business can they conduct while DJT is president and what is making money off of his position.
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