EPA is looking to remove the idling stop requirement from cars

If you bought a car the last 5 years you’re value just cratered

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Not let me take off the diesel bullshite on my truck.

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100% this. So annoying

The auto shut-off at a stoplight is the stupidest fricking thing, all it does is speed up how fast you’ll have to get something replaced in your engine from constantly stopping and starting

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PSA to anyone with an F-150 or Expedition that is annoyed by this:

Open your driver's side door and look above where your left foot rests when driving. There's 3 plug-ins that are visible. Unplug the smallest. Best I can tell it controls the auto start/stop and trailer brakes. Did it 5 years ago, and have not had an issue since.

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Can I get confirmation on this?

My habit is to hit the off button as soon as I crank my truck.

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PSA to anyone with an F-150 or Expedition that is annoyed by this: Open your driver's side door and look above where your left foot rests when driving. There's 3 plug-ins that are visible. Unplug the smallest. Best I can tell it controls the auto start/stop and trailer brakes. Did it 5 years ago, and have not had an issue since

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I just press the button on the dash when I start my truck. Seems like a better solution than just unplugging something that you don’t really know what it’s controlling

I had a new 23 Crostrek last year that had that bull crap. It drove me insane and almost made me get into several accidents. Unfortunately in November someone hit me and totaled by car. But after that idle crap I won’t get another car that has it.


I bought a 98 pickup instead

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The auto shut-off at a stoplight is the stupidest fricking thing, all it does is speeds up how fast you’ll have to get something replaced in your engine from constantly stopping and starting

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While i'm not a fan of the SS, it doesn't add any increased wear. It only works when engine oil is warm enough and the oil has already been pumped completely throughout the system. It maybe wears out a starter or something depending on how the restart is accomplished. I think some cars fire off a spark plug to get the engine turning again.

I will say it does save a lot of gas in my wife's car.

They need to create a module like the VCM muzzler/tuner for Honda that plugs into a harness right off the battery and disables it. There’s a way to hack it by removing part of the dashboard, but that’s too involved for many people.

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I always figured this has got to be bad for the life of the car. Restarting all the time in stop and go traffic has to add wear, right?

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Cold starts are where the vast majority of engine wear occurs. the SS only happens when the oil is warm enough and the engine is already lubricated. The reduction in engine revolutions over the life of the engine should prolong the engine life but other ancillary devices like alternators, compressors, starters, etc may not like the added starts. Maybe it is harder on batteries?

A dumb and annoying idea at the outset. Zeldin has got it right.