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Trump backs tax hike on rich but says GOP probably shouldn't do it

Posted on 5/9/25 at 4:22 pm
Posted by bigjoe1
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 4:22 pm
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President Donald Trump on Friday tepidly backed the idea of raising taxes on the richest Americans, while openly wrestling with the politics of such a move and suggesting that his fellow Republicans should “probably” oppose it.
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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:30 pm to
The only way I would back moderate tax increases on the upper bracket is if the money is mandated to exclusively shore up existing entitlements/deficits instead of being used to pay for a new benefit
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:34 pm to
Is this the slow trend of saying the GOP can't come up an agreement and they let the tax cuts expire
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:46 pm to
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The only way I would back moderate tax increases on the upper bracket is if the money is mandated to exclusively shore up existing entitlements/deficits instead of being used to pay for a new benefit

I’m always 100% opposed to tax increases, but the “increase” I find least offensive is simply the ending of deductions. The government needs to take its thumb off the scale and stop picking favorites.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:06 am to
My support or opposition depends largely on how “rich” is defined.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:23 am to
I don’t have an issue with it targeting people with incomes $10M+ AGI annually. It’ll be a few thousand people in the country.

Stop putting more tax burden on the W2 families making $400K.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:25 am to
I agree.

We shouldn't keep raising taxes on W2 earners making around $400K while billionaires and large corporations use loopholes to avoid paying more.

If there is going to be a tax increase, it should be aimed at those making $10 million or more a year.

Of course, before raising any taxes, the government needs to cut waste, be fully transparent, and prove it can manage money responsibly.

So, I guess, no tax increases since we know these things likely will never happen.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:44 am to
Trump's idea of those over 2.5 million of taxable income means it's less than 0.1% of individuals. Mostly athletes at this point. Estimates put it under 30 billion of raised revenue. Guess every bit helps, but they will need to go to a much lower income threshold to make all of his proposed tax cuts to work
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Posted by Lsu05
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:07 am to
Agreed. People making over 400k a year are paying over 43% in taxes after federal, state, and all the other bs. That in itself is a joke. Raising these rates further would be a scandal. Individuals who have climbed the ladder of success are being punished for it through taxation.
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 10:08 am
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:15 am to
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Trump backs tax hike


Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:17 am to
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Individuals who have climbed the ladder of success are being punished for it


It’s not punishment. It’s paying your fair share.
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Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:39 am to
Can’t tell if that was sarcasm or not
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:19 am to
400k dual income anywhere that isn’t rural/affordable isn’t even that much anymore.

Sure it’s a good living but with two kids in a large metro, that really isn’t a ton at that absurd tax rate.

It should move up to 600-750k given inflation and rising wages over the last few decades.

400k now is 200k 5-10 years ago. Inflation has been that bad.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
910 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 3:29 pm to
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but they will need to go to a much lower income threshold to make all of his proposed tax cuts to work


This is the problem. Like so many things this administration releases it's just short on details.Would very much like to see the carried interest loophole eliminated

Just don't see how you can exempt tip income, OT and SS from taxes and just raise taxes a couple of points on the extremely wealthy unless you have massive spending cuts.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 3:54 pm to
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People making over 400k a year are paying over 43% in taxes after federal, state, and all the other bs.


On a small portion of their income, not all their income. 400k married filing jointly pays 24% federal up to $390k AGI, then 32% on the other $10k of their AGI.

Billionaires should be paying an ungodly tax on every dollar they make over $1B/year. Like 90% kind of ungodly. Those people at that level don't give a single frick about the money itself, it's nothing more than a game at that point. frick 'em.

We wanna talk about a family making $400k? You'd have to work 2,500 years making $400k/yr to make a billion dollars. 475BC until now, all those generations, making pretty damn good money, and your total earning would STILL be dwarfed by many of the richest in the country.

Again, frick em.

Posted by TigerTalker142
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 4:48 pm to
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Billionaires should be paying an ungodly tax on every dollar they make over $1B/year. Like 90% kind of ungodly. Those people at that level don't give a single frick about the money itself, it's nothing more than a game at that point. frick 'em


Exactly this. It’s obscene how much money this is. As of Q1 of 2024 1% of the country held 30% of the wealth and the bottom 50% held less then 2%….if you want to generate meaningful revenue in this country with the least impact to the individual you need to go after the ultra wealthy. And you need to base it off wealth not income.

An annual 3% tax based on the value of total assets owned over say 50 million. Would not affect the quality of life of those individuals at all, and something like real estate or equities would almost certainly appreciate greater then that 3% in a given year. Or increase long term capital gains tax for people with say 50 million in assets to be taxed at ordinary income levels or to be some much higher number the more wealth you have.

If you have over $50 million in assets and you take a loan against assets you have to recognize any gains in those assets at that point up to the amount of the loan.

Plenty of ways to collect and those folks wouldn’t have to change how they live their lives at all. Not sure why we’re hellbent on making people who already have very little give up their healthcare to make up for a deficit, rather then go after revenue from people whose lives won’t be impacted at all.


This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 9:03 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40161 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:27 pm to
This is straight Bernie Sanders talk.
Wild times
Posted by TigerTalker142
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2007
1121 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:06 pm to
Seems like the easiest way to raise significant amounts of revenue while having literally zero impact on the target demos lives. Do you have a meaningful objection other than naming a politician you don’t like?

Doesn’t mean this can’t be done in conjunction with more efficient/reduced spending either. Just seems so obvious as a method to help alleviate the budget deficits that were in part responsible for the market gains of the past decade and a half which created a significant portion of that wealth in the first place. How big does the wealth gap have to get before you think there’s a systematic imbalance? Should 1% own 40% of the nations wealth? 50%?
Posted by Flick007
Member since Dec 2023
161 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:33 pm to
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My support or opposition depends largely on how “rich” is defined.


Covid showed this to be true for a whole lot of people that previously claimed to hate handouts or entitlements. We hemorrhaged money to a whole lot of people that did not need it and those people loved it.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5418 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:17 am to
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Billionaires should be paying an ungodly tax on every dollar they make over $1B/year. Like 90% kind of ungodly. Those people at that level don't give a single frick about the money itself, it's nothing more than a game at that point. frick 'em.



So the government deserves 90% of an earned dollar? GTFO with this nonsense.
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