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Forbes Piece: Why Falling Oil Prices Are No Longer A Clear Win For The U.S. Economy

Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:07 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
25066 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:07 am
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Not long ago, falling oil prices were widely celebrated in the United States. Cheaper gasoline meant more disposable income for consumers, lower transportation costs for businesses, and a boost to sectors that rely on oil as an input. But in 2025, that simplistic view no longer holds up. The economic equation has changed—dramatically.

In 2005, the U.S. was importing a staggering 12.5 million barrels of oil and finished products per day. At that time, a drop in oil prices translated into major savings on our import bill. The net benefits to the economy were clear. But in 2025, the picture is reversed. Thanks to the fracking boom, the U.S. is a net exporter of about 2.3 million barrels per day of oil and refined products. When oil prices fall, the U.S. now loses more on exports than it saves on imports.

That means falling oil prices today actually worsen the U.S. trade deficit—the very thing that tariffs are supposedly being used to fix. There’s irony in the fact that some of the loudest advocates for tariffs—arguing they’ll fix our trade imbalance—are also cheering falling oil prices.


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It’s also critical to consider why oil prices are falling. Prices drop when supply increases, demand decreases, or markets anticipate economic trouble. In 2020, oil prices famously collapsed—briefly even turning negative—not because the economy was booming, but because the COVID-19 pandemic had triggered a global shutdown. That price crash was a harbinger of deep economic pain.

Fast forward to today: oil prices are falling again, not because we’re swimming in cheap energy, but because market sentiment is shifting toward the possibility of a recession. This isn’t good news—it’s a flashing warning sign.

If economic conditions deteriorate further, investments in energy infrastructure and new production will slow. The same people chanting “drill, baby, drill” may find themselves wondering why rigs are being idled, capital expenditures are being slashed, and jobs are being cut.


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While consumers do benefit from lower gas prices at the pump, it’s important to understand that the energy sector is now a major driver of the U.S. economy. It supports millions of jobs, anchors the economies of entire states, and is a major contributor to GDP.


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Yes, certain sectors—like transportation and some manufacturers—may benefit from lower input costs. But the net impact on the U.S. economy is no longer straightforwardly positive.


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We should be cautious about using yesterday’s playbook to understand today’s economy. The energy world has changed and so has America’s place in it. A drop in oil prices may still provide relief at the gas pump—but as a signal of what’s happening across the broader economy, it’s a red flag we ignore at our peril.


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Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25984 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:10 am to
So we aren't making as much on exported oil. But our input costs to every corner of our economy also goes down slightly - at least until summer driving results in a temporary demand spike. If the painful inflation of the past 4-5 years is a concern for you, this should be a good thing.

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While consumers do benefit from lower gas prices at the pump, it’s important to understand that the energy sector is now a major driver of the U.S. economy. It supports millions of jobs, anchors the economies of entire states, and is a major contributor to GDP.


Forbes hasn't cared about the energy business in years. This is highly likely to be a sorry attempt at fear porn for people who are still bitter about the guy in the white house.

If Trump forced the world into peace - Forbes would be writing an article on the defense industry (who they also abhor).
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 10:13 am
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56939 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:10 am to
When gas is cheaper people use more of it and causes more pollution. You can already see the lead in the gasoline affecting iq with how people keep voting for Trump and Jeff Landry
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
21687 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:11 am to

If Trump funneled a massive amount of funding to cancer research, and a universal cure was delivered during his term, the headline the next day would be

Social Security won’t last without cancer deaths
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14039 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:13 am to
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When gas is cheaper people use more of it and causes more pollution. You can already see the lead in the gasoline affecting iq with how people keep voting for Trump and Jeff Landry


People that aren’t familiar with you might get triggered lol.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
25066 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:16 am to
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Forbes hasn't cared about the energy business in years. This is highly likely to be a sorry attempt at fear porn for people who are still bitter about the guy in the white house.


Maybe.

But this particular writer is a former industry guy who has written pieces very complementary and defending President Trump’s pick for energy secretary and has even written editorials stating that Trump’s push for more American generated energy is likely a net positive for a “greener” planet.

This particular op-ed of his has been published by a few outlets, it appears. I just ended up reading it on and linking the Forbes one.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 10:19 am
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
8250 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:16 am to
I’ve got a feeling this cheap oil is going to cause Louisiana to see a drop in royalty payments. Get ready for a budget gap.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282586 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:27 am to
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There’s irony in the fact that some of the loudest advocates for tariffs—arguing they’ll fix our trade imbalance—are also cheering falling oil prices.


On brand.

"Trade deficits" are simply misunderstood by tariff proponents.

Posted by TooFyeToFly
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1721 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:36 am to
Idiots are currently in charge of the global economy. Buckle up.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97018 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:08 am to
If Kamala had won they’d be fawning over how great a job she is doing getting energy prices down for everyday Americans

But since it’s Trump all of a sudden it’s a bad thing and they’re worried about oil corporations profits lmao
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
522 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:12 am to
Breakeven for major oil investment in Gulf of Amexico is approx $60/BBL give or take.

North of $60/BBL is good for jobs, simply put (supply side)

North of $80/BBL is bad for disposable income via higher retail fuel prices
(demand side)

Therein between is the sweet spot.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87883 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:12 am to
Cheap oil isnt good for Vlad

He will be at the table fast of it hits 30 a barrell
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38701 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:27 am to
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But since it’s Trump all of a sudden it’s a bad thing and they’re worried about oil corporations profits lmao




Haven't you been one of the biggest trade deficit complainers around here?

Oil tanking increases our trade deficit.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38701 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:28 am to
quote:


Breakeven for major oil investment in Gulf of Amexico is approx $60/BBL give or take.

North of $60/BBL is good for jobs, simply put (supply side)

North of $80/BBL is bad for disposable income via higher retail fuel prices
(demand side)

Therein between is the sweet spot.



Are you in the industry?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25969 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:33 am to
This is simply the opposite cycle of the it's happening and it's a good thing propaganda technique. It's happening and it's actually a bad thing. Way to think outside of, but jammed right next to the box.
Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
3192 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:24 pm to
I think Forbes has made a few mistakes in their analysis. Most importantly ,Saudi Arabia; a.k.a. OPEC still controls oil prices not us. They do that because they’re lifting cost for a barrel of oil is about $15 so they can sell a barrel of oil for 40 bucks and still make a good profit. Lifting cost for the average oil play in Louisiana is perhaps $60 per barrel.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
25066 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:33 pm to
I don’t think the author’s piece tried to argue that the U.S. could control oil prices. Just that the import-export balance is much different, and in our favor today if the belief is that we’re best being a net exporter.

Saudis are opening the taps to try to regain some market share that has been lost, and he’s their cost to produce out of the ground is much less than for our operators here in the U.S.; however, it keeps getting stated recently that with the way their government budgets and its future spending plans, they need $90 oil to fund all their country’s needs and desires.

So I’m not sure how long they can fund their government with prices 60 and below.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
57667 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:33 pm to
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This is highly likely to be a sorry attempt at fear porn for people who are still bitter about the guy in the white house.


Ya think? Yeah, boooo lower gas prices America. OMB!
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14355 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:07 pm to
“Trump has cured cancer and how that’s bad for society”

By retarded TDS suffering journalist.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3451 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:17 pm to
Show me his article in 2021 where he declared high oil prices were good now that we are an exporter.
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