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Tucker Carlson: "We just lost a war against Russia"

Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:35 am
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:35 am
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:37 am to
Stupid af. The US did not do the fighting, all we did was pay the bills while Ukraine fought

Based on russias performance, we would thoroughly kick their arse
Posted by DallasTiger11
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:38 am to
One of the dumbest things I've ever seen Tucker say
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:39 am to
Yeah, Tucker kinda swings and misses here imo. The Biden crime family laundering cash through Zelensky and Ukraine is not the same thing as the US losing a conventional war against Russia.

I'd argue that this performance by the Russians has more cemented their status as a paper tiger from a military perspective.
This post was edited on 4/10/25 at 8:41 am
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:40 am to
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"We just lost a war against Russia"


Well, we were never really at war with Russia and quite honestly, had no business being involved with Ukraine in the first place...
Posted by KCT
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:40 am to
I wish Trump would drop a MOAB on the OT Board. Some of the most dysfunctional dimwits on the planet.
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Member since May 2017
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:42 am to

Sounds like sour grapes from a person who supported our financial backing of Ukraine. So he can continue to eat those sour grapes.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67381 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:43 am to
Tucker has always been a vacuous media clown.
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:44 am to
We ?!!?

You got a Guinea pig in your pocket Tucker ?


Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:45 am to
Nah, Tuckers thoughts aren't that dumb or stupid.
Seems we've just reached the last Ukrainian.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:46 am to
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all we did was pay the bills while Ukraine fought


Incorrect. Did you not see this report in the NYT a couple of weeks ago?


"Interesting article, but not much new information. We've known that the Ukrainian army is a mindless zombie entirely controlled by NATO (in particular, American and British officers) for three years now. The US had total control over the entire chain of command and the kill chain for practically every weapons system used. No missile strike, no HIMARS use was possible without the US providing everything from intelligence and target acquisition to command and approval. Only the very last step, physically pushing the button, was left to the AFU.

De facto, every single factor that made the Ukrainian army a formidable enemy was American, and the level of American involvement was a lot higher than e.g. Soviet involvement in Vietnam. Barely even a proxy war. As a Russian I disagree with some of the decisions made in Moscow but Americans should kneel and praise Putin daily because if anyone with a less cool head was in charge we'd have been in WW3 for a long time.

It's not just that the Ukrainian army is effectively led, trained and supplied by the US, it's not only that the US military and the CIA have boots on the ground at the front lines, it's also that every single terror strike - the missile strikes against the Christmas market in Belgorod and the beach near Sevastopol, countless attacks against Donetsk - was prepared and approved by the US. Every woman and child who was killed in these targeted terror attacks was murdered by the US.

But none of that is new information. They've only started publicly admitting it now. And only in a way that lets them take credit for every AFU success and put the blame for every AFU failure on Kiev. It's despicable. And it's also despicable that we didn't respond even asymmetrically...

But such is geopolitics.

In any case, when the AFU is finally broken and defeated, every Russian soldier can be extra proud - he bested America on the battlefield"


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Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:46 am to
Paper tiger with the largest nuclear weapons stockpile on Earth.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:50 am to
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Stupid af. The US did not do the fighting, all we did was pay the bills while Ukraine fought



Yup and yup. Not a good take from Tucker.
Posted by 14&Counting
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:54 am to
That is laughable
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 9:00 am to
Yes, these small theater wars that we participate in without sending troops are much more complicated than “we won or lost”.

These aren’t American wars in the classic sense, just like the Cold War was not really a war. It’s part of the ongoing geopolitical landscape of being a superpower who, for good or bad, acts as a world policeman. And not simply a neutral policeman, but a self-serving policeman, who, yes, tries to maintain a certain moral order, but who also benefits from trade advantages and global commerce generally.

What seemed to be new about the Ukraine and Russia war, is that the geopolitical landscape had some deeper conflict underneath it, which you could describe as a globalist versus nationalist war - which appears like a national cold civil war in each of the countries.

So, the Russo-Ukrainian War is not even over. And in the geopolitical realm, I think bith Russia and Ukraine seem to have lost a great deal: fighting age men, military hardware, big debts, instability in the world trading markets, etc.

They also gained first hand fighting knowledge and experience.

Maybe Ukraine found a better sense of national unity and independence from Russia as their most culturally Russian people and regions are going to be part of Russia.

But we dont even know what the final form of the peace will look like. Maybe one side or the other will be so resentful at the end that it will be a prelude to more conflict.


In general, we should remember that the post-WWII period of relative peace world-wide (with notable exceptions) is not the norm for humanity. It’s folly to simply declare a winner or loser in most wars unless one side totally capitulates or is annihilated.
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
3570 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 9:00 am to
Based on Russia’s performance? You do realize the Russians have not only destroyed the majority of the Ukrainian army, that was funded and armed to the teeth by the West for a decade, but also numerous western mercenaries?

Russia is still pumping out thousands of tanks and armored vehicles, ammunition, drones, even more than the West.

The Russian military has absolutely passed the test in Ukraine and have shown they’re very capable and adaptable.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 9:01 am to
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One of the dumbest things I've ever seen Tucker say



Yep. Did we lose a war with the Taliban? Iraq? Viet Nam?

The real war is yet to be fought, with Iran, before they nuke up like Russia or China and then it would be suicidal to fight said war. Problem being that current Iranian ideology is 'Martyrdom' based, and suicide would not be a restraint for them. Their people not so much, so that is what the current pressure is about; regime change check in the mail.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 9:01 am to
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Paper tiger with the largest nuclear weapons stockpile on Earth.


Meh, that doesn't really move the needle for me. Once the world would potentially be destroyed from nuclear war, it doesn't really matter how many times over you could destroy it.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33931 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 9:03 am to
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Stupid af. The US did not do the fighting,


So you can't lose a proxy war?

Can you win one?
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