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How confident are you that Trump and his team know what they are doing with tariffs?

Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:04 am
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3541 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:04 am
Boy, it sure sounds like a risky gamble the path this administration is on with a promise of some kind of long term payoff that hasn't been well articulated for people to understand and the time line of which isn't clear either.

Are Bessent and Lutnick as good as they are advertised? Is Bessent really the best macro investor the world has ever known? People like to say Bessent broke the Pound Sterling and forced the Bank of England to devalue it, but come on, he was only 29 when that happened. How much influence could he really have had? It probably was all Soros and Druckenmiller.

I don't know baws. I can't even look at my 401(k) anymore after just 3 days. Don't know how long people will accept this uncertainty and volatility and destruction of wealth and retirement accounts. 401(k) going down 20% seemingly overnight for folks that only have $1M to so to begin with is a bigger deal than the net worth of some billionaire dropping a few billion. The former will feel it immediately. The latter's life won't change much.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 1:14 am
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40402 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:08 am to
0% confident
Posted by DraggingPride
Member since Jul 2024
68 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:10 am to
25%, maybe, I'm not even sure myself what I think needs to happen...I know we don't need to be getting railed like we were on the tariff end of things..but that doesn't necessarly mean going all in is the best play either.
Posted by PNW_TigerSaint
Member since Oct 2016
1204 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:10 am to
I’m skeptical of anyone who is confident one way or the other. No one can know with any reasonable certainty what will happen.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
12172 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:37 am to
100%
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
2218 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:39 am to
100% except for China. Xi won’t lose face. Not sure what will happen there.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
12172 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:14 am to
More than half of Chinas economy is based on sending us their garbage. They're more fricked than we are.
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
9880 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:07 am to
quote:

100% except for China. Xi won’t lose face. Not sure what will happen there.


Especially with Vance calling them "peasants." Face culture in China has been fully activated after that goof, and they'd rather starve to death than show weakness now.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6211 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:27 am to
Our economic ship is/was on an unsustainable path, unless you subscribe to MMT.

Trump has been speaking about tariffs for 40+ yrs.

A tariffs plus spending cuts and reduction in waste is a must.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4253 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:49 am to
“ I can’t even look at my 401(k) anymore”

Don’t look at it.I’ve been through it several times-Black Monday,1987.
Dot-Com bubble,2000.2007-2008 housing crisis,2020 COVID pandemic.

It can be gut wrenching to be sure to see your portfolio balance drop 50% in a short period of time but that’s the nature of the stock market.If you look at a graph of the S&P 500 it’s a series of ups and downs,over long term the return has averaged about 10%.
I like a quote by Warren Buffett-“ Be greedy when others are fearful,be fearful when others are greedy”.

The way I see it,if Trump doesn’t do something or if he is not successful we’re toast anyway.Decades of fiscal mismanagement by the government,our ever rising national debt,the on going trade deficit.Factor in the millions of illegals,majority of which are a drain on society we are headed for a catastrophe and have been for several decades.

I’m pretty optimistic Trump can turn it around,at least for awhile.
All empires eventually collapse.



Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7541 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:05 am to
I am confident they fully recognize the consequences of doing nothing.

The current credit crisis requires meaningful change in our Debt, our Spending, and our role as the world’s Reserve currency.

Time is up.



This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 6:08 am
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5983 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:15 am to
I’d feel a lot better if they would show their math instead of ‘just trust us.’
Surely the Trump team has ran the numbers and have some idea of what the end game is.
Posted by deltafarmer
Member since Dec 2019
787 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:28 am to
The U.S. has the largest consumer spending in the world. We are still a very important market. Therefore I think that the tariffs will bring about some more favorable trade deals for the U.S. I don’t think trade deficits will end though. We are shipping out low value commodities which other countries are using to produce high value end products back to us.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
14254 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:29 am to
0%

They’re running the country like some adolescent, cocky shite stain would run a start up tech company or Uber app.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 6:41 am
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
54667 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:39 am to
Very much confident.
Posted by Friendly Satan
Member since Nov 2024
557 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:39 am to
I love Trump. The man is truly one of a kind, but let’s just hope the tariffs don’t go the way of the USFL, Trump University, and Trump’s Taj Mahal.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
55767 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:44 am to
He doesn't know what he's doing
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
44316 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:51 am to
You may never be able to quit your job at McDonald's
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5385 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:52 am to
I was at 5% confidence. Now having seen how they have switched to a "trade imbalance" tariff, I am at 0%.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47216 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:04 am to
The levels in which they are set at today have zero percent chance of succeeding.

I think they start backing off very soon
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