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One thing I never got about Star Wars...
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:10 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:10 am
Was Anakin Skywalker's story arc.
Why does he deserve redemption when he slaughtered dozens and dozens of young children? Not to mention all the killing of adults he did in his lifetime?
Just never got it.
You can't ever earn redemption for the horrific, intentional, and brutal massacre of so many young children.
ETA:
Why does he deserve redemption when he slaughtered dozens and dozens of young children? Not to mention all the killing of adults he did in his lifetime?
Just never got it.
You can't ever earn redemption for the horrific, intentional, and brutal massacre of so many young children.
ETA:
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 7:10 am
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:37 am to TigerGman
The only thing I got is if the Pitch Meeting YouTuber would say
*Looks at notes*:
"Because"
*Looks at notes*:
"Because"
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:59 am to TigerGman
The true meaning of Star Wars is, it’s never too late to stop being a dick.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:01 am to TigerGman
Because it's like poetry. It rhymes.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:44 am to TigerGman
According to actual Star Wars canon, the Jedi Temple massacre was but a speed bump in a body count of millions.
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Darth Vader is responsible for the deaths of countless, if not hundreds of thousands or even millions, of individuals throughout the galaxy, including the destruction of Alderaan and other planets via the Death Star
Vader's role in the construction and operation of the Death Star, which destroyed Alderaan, resulted in the deaths of billions.
It's implied that Vader's kill count is likely even higher than what's seen on screen, as he served as Palpatine's dark apprentice and chief enforcer for a long time, meaning there were likely many deaths he was responsible for that happened off-screen.
Vader also killed several Inquisitors, including the 13th Sister, Tuall, Yaluna and the Second Sister.
While Vader might argue he was merely following orders, he chose to obey Palpatine, and therefore bears responsibility for the atrocities committed by the Empire.
Billions of Deaths:
Some fans estimate that Vader is responsible for billions of deaths by the end of his life due to the destabilization, violent martial imperialism, and genocides he enforced at the whim of his Emperor.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:04 am to Boomdaddy65201
I always assumed it was more of just a Force thing. As in it's not really "heaven," but more a place where people that in-tune with the Force ended up. So being a murderous, psychopathic a-hole doesn't preclude you from ending up there. Especially when the Force is as strong as it is with Vader.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:15 am to TigerGman
Yes people forget Vader was basically the Emperor's enforcer. He was the guy sent in to do the dirtiest jobs by any means necessary. Basically Luca Brasi.
His reputation for brutality was well known, which is why everyone was so afraid of him, including officers who were on paper his superior.
So yeah, him being instantly redeemed for saving his own son is kind of a happy ending cop out.
His reputation for brutality was well known, which is why everyone was so afraid of him, including officers who were on paper his superior.
So yeah, him being instantly redeemed for saving his own son is kind of a happy ending cop out.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 7:27 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:17 am to TigerGman
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Tell your sister she was right.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:20 am to TigerGman
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Why does he deserve redemption when he slaughtered dozens and dozens of young children? Not to mention all the killing of adults he did in his lifetime?
You need to pick up a book about Christianity, particularly one that focuses on Christian theological perspectives on the infinite mercy of God.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:40 am to TigerGman
To be fair he was redeemed before the prequels were a thing so it was already cannon. But Darth Vader was always described as this ultimate evil in the galaxy doing the bidding of an evil emperor. So you had to up it and have him do some heinous stuff when III came out.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:24 am to TigerGman
It goes along with the general idea of redemption.
You also have to remember that a very small group of people knew who Darth Vader was, what all he actually did for the Emperor (to most people, he was simply the boogie man), that he was "redeemed", and that Luke and Leia were his children. We are reminded of this when Rey & Co. meet Han.
You also have to remember that a very small group of people knew who Darth Vader was, what all he actually did for the Emperor (to most people, he was simply the boogie man), that he was "redeemed", and that Luke and Leia were his children. We are reminded of this when Rey & Co. meet Han.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:37 am to TigerGman
I always took it as fulfilling his destiny of bringing balance to the force. He might have killed all the jedi but in the end it was the will of the force
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:02 am to TigerGman
It could be lazy writing, but I could argue two points:
- The emperor used him. Merely a pawn of the dark side
- The Anakin we knew as "good" ceased to exist when he turned to the dark side, as Obi-Wan portrays in A New Hope.
- The emperor used him. Merely a pawn of the dark side
- The Anakin we knew as "good" ceased to exist when he turned to the dark side, as Obi-Wan portrays in A New Hope.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:21 am to TigerGman
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Why does he deserve redemption
Redemption is often not earned. There are instances where it simply cannot be earned. Redemption, like forgiveness, is, more often than not, freely given.
The story isn't about the offender requesting forgiveness. The story is about the one, or ones, extending this quality.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:34 am to TigerGman
They really fricked all that Force ghost stuff up.
Young Anakin was the one who slaughtered the younglings. Luke saved older Anakin, so thats who deserved (if indeed he did at all) to join Obi wan & Yoda.
Even George screwed that up himself.
Young Anakin was the one who slaughtered the younglings. Luke saved older Anakin, so thats who deserved (if indeed he did at all) to join Obi wan & Yoda.
Even George screwed that up himself.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 9:36 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:45 am to TigerGman
You talking about blowing up Alderaan?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:49 am to TigerGman
I will join in with the general consensus about redeption and forgiveness
there is also the element that the dark side of the force corrupts and pulling yourself out of that spiral is hard.
The force ghosts aren’t saints they’re one with the force, so I guess it’s never too late to pull yourself together. It’s not a balance sheet deal.
there is also the element that the dark side of the force corrupts and pulling yourself out of that spiral is hard.
The force ghosts aren’t saints they’re one with the force, so I guess it’s never too late to pull yourself together. It’s not a balance sheet deal.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:55 am to TigerGman
Vader is actually the hero. Didn’t you see all the Marxist “resistance” in the sequel trilogy? Maybe that’s what he was trying to prevent
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:09 am to TigerGman
quote:
Was Anakin Skywalker's story arc.
Why does he deserve redemption when he slaughtered dozens and dozens of young children? Not to mention all the killing of adults he did in his lifetime?
Just never got it.
You can't ever earn redemption for the horrific, intentional, and brutal massacre of so many young children.
But you are perfectly ok with Luke killing millions of innocent Imperial employee's when he blew up the first death star?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:44 am to TigerGman
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One thing I never got about Star Wars...
That George had to banging Kathleen Kennedy?
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