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Trump apparently does not have control of rogue CIA factions in Ukraine.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 3/31/25 at 2:05 pm
Key Takeaways From America’s Secret Military Partnership With Ukraine
An investigation by The New York Times has revealed that America was woven into the war far more than previously known.
tCTH take:
quote:
As we have outlined for several years, including our own research by driving through Ukraine, the CIA has been operating on the ground in Ukraine from the outset of the conflict. Over time the CIA took over most of the strategic operations, and as it currently stands the United States CIA is organizing the majority of the Ukraine war against Russia.
This is where you need to understand how CIA authorization takes place.
In order for the CIA to operate in Ukraine, Joe Biden had to sign a “presidential finding memo” authorizing the CIA to conduct covert operations. This New York Times article is describing the outcome of those “finding memoranda.”
The motive is clear for the New York Times to outline how the CIA is operating inside Ukraine to target the Russian Federation.
The operatives who leak to the NYT want distance between Trump and Putin. This admission of CIA involvement puts Trump in an awkward place.
The awkwardness expands, when you understand how the CIA is authorized to conduct these operations. The President, Biden, signed a “finding memo,” authorizing the CIA to conduct missile strikes into the Russian Federation.
Senator Marco Rubio as SSCI vice-chair and a Gang of Eight member, was ‘read in’ to that CIA authorization.
Senator Rubio is now Secretary of State facing Sergey Lavrov, and the Russians know exactly how these things are done.
On one hand, the NYT article spills the beans and informs the public. On the other hand, their reason for purposefully spilling the beans is to create a problem for Trump and Rubio, and possibly between Trump and Rubio.
It makes sense now why Secretary of State Rubio was the first Trump official to publicly say the United States was in a proxy war against Russia using Ukraine as the justification.
On the upside, this creates an opportunity for President Trump to distance himself from the prior administration and withdraw all CIA operatives and admitted/revealed U.S. military boots on the ground in Ukraine.
President Trump could use this revelation, now public and widespread, to reset the U.S-Ukraine dynamic and withdraw all elements of prior Biden authorization from the conflict.
Will he?
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 2:11 pm to GumboPot
quote:let’s all hope he does
President Trump could use this revelation, now public and widespread, to reset the U.S-Ukraine dynamic and withdraw all elements of prior Biden authorization from the conflict.
Will he?
Posted on 3/31/25 at 2:16 pm to GumboPot
Well duh. He never will have control of the rogue cia factions because they are unconstitutional, funded by black market money and report to nobody. The only chance of finding them and stopping them is to shutdown the CIA completely so it is easier to find them.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 2:22 pm to GumboPot
I read that article. It was very interesting and every American should read it. Nothing in there should be a surprise to anyone. I had always assumed that we were doing these things. Certainly the Russians knew all this.
What I wonder about: What additional things have we been doing that we haven’t been told about? And what has always been troubling to me is that we have been heavily involved waging a proxy war vs Russia (including facilitating strikes inside Russia) all while we had a demented old fool at the helm. Very dangerous situation IMO.
What I wonder about: What additional things have we been doing that we haven’t been told about? And what has always been troubling to me is that we have been heavily involved waging a proxy war vs Russia (including facilitating strikes inside Russia) all while we had a demented old fool at the helm. Very dangerous situation IMO.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 2:24 pm to SloaneRanger
CIA admitted through NYT last year we've been involved for ten years. Even more than the information revealed, you have to ask why these disclosures are being made.
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 2:26 pm to GumboPot
Biden couldn’t afford to let Russia win so is anyone shocked he had those operators doing their thing?
Posted on 3/31/25 at 2:27 pm to GumboPot
Maybe if Trump wasn't golfing with Lindsey Graham he could get control of these rogue elements.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 2:27 pm to GumboPot
quote:
Trump apparently does not have control of rogue CIA factions in Ukraine
And won't. There or anywhere else.
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An investigation by The New York Times
"Narrative given to The New York Times"
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No one knows what's actually going on there.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:17 pm to GumboPot
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If tweet fails to load, click here. I don't think Waltz is any help. Will Ratcliffe reign in the rogue fraction of the CIA?
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:23 pm to cajunangelle
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Will Ratcliffe reign in the rogue fraction of the CIA?
I have no idea.
But the other question is will this cause a rift between Trump and Rubio?
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:30 pm to Bunk Moreland
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CIA admitted through NYT last year we've been involved for ten years. Even more than the information revealed, you have to ask why these disclosures are being made.
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:36 pm to POTUS2024
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Maybe if Trump wasn't golfing with Lindsey Graham he could get control of these rogue elements.
Jesus. TDS is real. This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:02 pm to POTUS2024
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Maybe if Trump wasn't golfing with Lindsey Graham he could get control of these rogue elements.
LOL the guy you voted for didn't leave his basement for four years and wouldn't speak to the press after 9AM.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:18 pm to POTUS2024
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Maybe if Trump wasn't golfing with Lindsey Graham he could get control of these rogue elements.
Right, because golfing with Graham is the reason the President of the United States isn't personally hunting down rogue CIA agents.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:27 pm to GumboPot
Sounds a lot like Kennedy, the CIA, and Cuba. Which, of course, people believe (with good reason) got Kennedy assassinated with CIA involvement.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:46 pm to MMauler
If Putin would accept the role of The Rothschilds and friends in controlling global commerce and finance this war wouldn't be necessary.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:47 pm to GumboPot
quote:
As we have outlined for several years, including our own research by driving through Ukraine, the CIA has been operating on the ground in Ukraine from the outset of the conflict. Over time the CIA took over most of the strategic operations, and as it currently stands the United States CIA is organizing the majority of the Ukraine war against Russia.
This is where you need to understand how CIA authorization takes place.
In order for the CIA to operate in Ukraine, Joe Biden had to sign a “presidential finding memo” authorizing the CIA to conduct covert operations. This New York Times article is describing the outcome of those “finding memoranda.”
The motive is clear for the New York Times to outline how the CIA is operating inside Ukraine to target the Russian Federation.
The operatives who leak to the NYT want distance between Trump and Putin. This admission of CIA involvement puts Trump in an awkward place.
The awkwardness expands, when you understand how the CIA is authorized to conduct these operations. The President, Biden, signed a “finding memo,” authorizing the CIA to conduct missile strikes into the Russian Federation.
Senator Marco Rubio as SSCI vice-chair and a Gang of Eight member, was ‘read in’ to that CIA authorization.
Senator Rubio is now Secretary of State facing Sergey Lavrov, and the Russians know exactly how these things are done.
On one hand, the NYT article spills the beans and informs the public. On the other hand, their reason for purposefully spilling the beans is to create a problem for Trump and Rubio, and possibly between Trump and Rubio.
It makes sense now why Secretary of State Rubio was the first Trump official to publicly say the United States was in a proxy war against Russia using Ukraine as the justification.
On the upside, this creates an opportunity for President Trump to distance himself from the prior administration and withdraw all CIA operatives and admitted/revealed U.S. military boots on the ground in Ukraine.
President Trump could use this revelation, now public and widespread, to reset the U.S-Ukraine dynamic and withdraw all elements of prior Biden authorization from the conflict.
Will he?
This^^^^ is why I call it the Bureaucratic State and not the Deep State or Administrative State.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:56 pm to cajunangelle
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I don't think Waltz is any help. Will Ratcliffe reign in the rogue fraction of the CIA
Ratcliffe invited DOGE to crawl up the CIA's arse to find waste , fraud, and abuse..... lets see what happens.
I have full confidence that Elon will not cover for anyone. Call me whatever, but I think Elon is on the right side. He sure doesn't need money or power.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:56 pm to GumboPot
Or his bowels
Posted on 3/31/25 at 6:35 pm to Bass Tiger
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This^^^^ is why I call it the Bureaucratic State and not the Deep State or Administrative State.
Ive heard Mike Benz and others call it "the blob". Cause it includes all the aforementioned, plus, the MIC, the MSM, 1.2 million NGOs (at last count), much of congress, legislative branch, and the new world order globally.
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