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High heat in Texas prisons unconstitutional

Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:11 am
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:11 am
A federal judge found the extreme heat in Texas prisons is “plainly unconstitutional,” but did not order the state to begin installing air conditioners.

“This case concerns the plainly unconstitutional treatment of some of the most vulnerable, marginalized members of our society,” Pitman said in his ruling, noting that he believes excessive heat is unconstitutional punishment.

The lawsuit argues the heat in Texas prisons can amount to cruel and unusual punishment. Summer heat can easily be above 100 degrees Fahrenheit in the state, particularly as summers continue to get warmer due to climate change.

The plaintiffs are asking the state to install air conditioning in state facilities and while the judge stopped short of ordering the state to spend the billions of dollars on the installation, Jeff Edwards, the lead attorney for prisoners, said it was a victory.

Pitman noted that it would take months to install temporary air conditioning and billions for a permanent solution. He expects the case to go to trial, where advocates can continue their case, though the state Legislature has not made moves on the matter for years.

The AP noted that about a third of the state’s roughly 100 prison units are fully air conditioned and the rest only have partial air conditioning or no electric cooling. LINK
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6864 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:13 am to
If you can’t do the time….
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:13 am to
Perhaps if it is shitty conditions, it might keep more out.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
14551 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:13 am to
Where in the Constitution does it say prisons should be well ventilated and air conditioned?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:13 am to
I wonder why the judge stopped short of requiring AC?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:14 am to
quote:

most vulnerable, marginalized members of our society


all that matters
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21351 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:14 am to
Tough shite.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:15 am to
quote:

“plainly unconstitutional,”


Still looking for that amendment.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:16 am to
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most vulnerable, marginalized members of our society


Are they really though?
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
1119 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:16 am to
And up until today I didn't think they had air condition in the late 1700s! Who knew!
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
85281 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:16 am to
Nobody promised a holiday inn express
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
78438 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Are they really though?

Well clearly it's why they are sweating to death.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
7888 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:18 am to
quote:

marginalized members of our society


They are in prison, they have been removed from our society for reasons........
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
78438 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Nobody promised a holiday inn express

Seems this Obama appointed judge feels differently.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:19 am to

So before A/C started becoming common in the 1950s, all U.S. prisoners were held in Unconstitutional conditions?
Posted by SallysHuman
With Sally
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:19 am to
quote:

This case concerns the plainly unconstitutional treatment of some of the most vulnerable, marginalized members of our society,” Pitman said in his ruling, noting that he believes excessive heat is unconstitutional punishment.


They should avoid roasting the prisoners, but the bolded part is bull hockey.

Vulnerable? Marginalized? They certainly aren't members of society, and with reason.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5984 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:30 am to
shitty conditions have existed forever in prisons. It doesn't detour crime. one day this country will take a hard look at how we handle our prison systems. 82% reoffend. Most states have stripped education and other programs aimed to help people not re-offend.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17749 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:33 am to
Air conditioning hadn't even been invented when the Constitution was written. How could our Founders have intended to make it a right for prisoners?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21351 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:34 am to
Bring back Joe Arpaio.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
12805 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Where in the Constitution does it say prisons should be well ventilated and air conditioned?
Well considering the constitution is older than A/C, or wired electricity for that matter, I think the judge is reaching. Time for another appeal, I guess.
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