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High heat in Texas prisons unconstitutional
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:11 am
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:11 am
A federal judge found the extreme heat in Texas prisons is “plainly unconstitutional,” but did not order the state to begin installing air conditioners.
“This case concerns the plainly unconstitutional treatment of some of the most vulnerable, marginalized members of our society,” Pitman said in his ruling, noting that he believes excessive heat is unconstitutional punishment.
The lawsuit argues the heat in Texas prisons can amount to cruel and unusual punishment. Summer heat can easily be above 100 degrees Fahrenheit in the state, particularly as summers continue to get warmer due to climate change.
The plaintiffs are asking the state to install air conditioning in state facilities and while the judge stopped short of ordering the state to spend the billions of dollars on the installation, Jeff Edwards, the lead attorney for prisoners, said it was a victory.
Pitman noted that it would take months to install temporary air conditioning and billions for a permanent solution. He expects the case to go to trial, where advocates can continue their case, though the state Legislature has not made moves on the matter for years.
The AP noted that about a third of the state’s roughly 100 prison units are fully air conditioned and the rest only have partial air conditioning or no electric cooling. LINK
“This case concerns the plainly unconstitutional treatment of some of the most vulnerable, marginalized members of our society,” Pitman said in his ruling, noting that he believes excessive heat is unconstitutional punishment.
The lawsuit argues the heat in Texas prisons can amount to cruel and unusual punishment. Summer heat can easily be above 100 degrees Fahrenheit in the state, particularly as summers continue to get warmer due to climate change.
The plaintiffs are asking the state to install air conditioning in state facilities and while the judge stopped short of ordering the state to spend the billions of dollars on the installation, Jeff Edwards, the lead attorney for prisoners, said it was a victory.
Pitman noted that it would take months to install temporary air conditioning and billions for a permanent solution. He expects the case to go to trial, where advocates can continue their case, though the state Legislature has not made moves on the matter for years.
The AP noted that about a third of the state’s roughly 100 prison units are fully air conditioned and the rest only have partial air conditioning or no electric cooling. LINK
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:13 am to Jbird
Perhaps if it is shitty conditions, it might keep more out.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:13 am to Jbird
Where in the Constitution does it say prisons should be well ventilated and air conditioned?
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:13 am to BatonrougeCajun
I wonder why the judge stopped short of requiring AC?
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:14 am to AuburnTigers
quote:
most vulnerable, marginalized members of our society
all that matters

Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:15 am to Jbird
quote:
“plainly unconstitutional,”

Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:16 am to Jbird
quote:
most vulnerable, marginalized members of our society
Are they really though?
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:16 am to Jbird
And up until today I didn't think they had air condition in the late 1700s! Who knew!
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:16 am to Jbird
Nobody promised a holiday inn express
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:17 am to DemonKA3268
quote:Well clearly it's why they are sweating to death.
Are they really though?

Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:18 am to Jbird
quote:
marginalized members of our society
They are in prison, they have been removed from our society for reasons........
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:19 am to momentoftruth87
quote:Seems this Obama appointed judge feels differently.
Nobody promised a holiday inn express

Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:19 am to Jbird
So before A/C started becoming common in the 1950s, all U.S. prisoners were held in Unconstitutional conditions?
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:19 am to Jbird
quote:
This case concerns the plainly unconstitutional treatment of some of the most vulnerable, marginalized members of our society,” Pitman said in his ruling, noting that he believes excessive heat is unconstitutional punishment.
They should avoid roasting the prisoners, but the bolded part is bull hockey.
Vulnerable? Marginalized? They certainly aren't members of society, and with reason.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:30 am to DemonKA3268
shitty conditions have existed forever in prisons. It doesn't detour crime. one day this country will take a hard look at how we handle our prison systems. 82% reoffend. Most states have stripped education and other programs aimed to help people not re-offend.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:33 am to Jbird
Air conditioning hadn't even been invented when the Constitution was written. How could our Founders have intended to make it a right for prisoners?
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:34 am to AuburnTigers
quote:Well considering the constitution is older than A/C, or wired electricity for that matter, I think the judge is reaching. Time for another appeal, I guess.
Where in the Constitution does it say prisons should be well ventilated and air conditioned?
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