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Another Trumpian statistic? Amount of murderers illegally in this country.

Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:05 pm
In this clip, President Trump says that there are 11,088 murderers illegally in this country and of that number more than half have killed more than one person.

I tend to believe this is a Trumpian statistic: a number that's directionally relevant, but factually incorrect.

Does ANYONE believe that the 11,088 number is accurate? If so, what was the methodology for arriving at such a precise number?

This post was edited on 3/21/25 at 2:26 pm
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:06 pm to
It's embarrassing that the number is even in double digits. Our border is a scam.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
3576 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:08 pm to
You think 11k out of 20 million or so is statistically too high? Sounds about right considering we know they empty their prisons
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:10 pm to
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It's embarrassing that the number is even in double digits.


I agree completely.

I was just wondering about how the President arrived at such a precise number.
Posted by SallysHuman
With Sally
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:10 pm to
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In this clip, President Trump says that there are 11,088 murderers illegally in this country and of that number more than half have killed more than one person.


quote:

Does ANYONE believe that the 11,088 number is accurate?


No.

I believe it is higher.

Despite what you see on the news, illegal aliens aren't generally law abiding.

With millions of illegal aliens within our borders, I'd say 11k is likely a conservative number of those who could be murderers. I'd also easily believe that over 5k of them are multiple murderers.

It has been said and obviously bears repeating... they aren't sending their best.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24936 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:11 pm to
They emptied their prisons. Seems easy enough to count the number of murderers and their victims. He didn't say over 10,000. He said a very specific number which is probably the known convicted murderers they sent here.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:13 pm to
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In this clip, President Trump says that there are 11,088 murderers illegally in this country and of that number more than half have killed more than one person.

Then why aren’t they being arrested?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5241 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:18 pm to
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They emptied their prisons. Seems easy enough to count the number of murderers and their victims. He didn't say over 10,000. He said a very specific number which is probably the known convicted murderers they sent here.


I am in no way doubting that in an inexcusably large number of illegal aliens (thanks President Trump for stopping that!), there would be over 10,000 murderers. It's just the specifics that interest me.

For instance, is there ANY evidence that people were "sent from prisons" to invade the US? If so, what was the name of any of the prisons or prisoners?
This post was edited on 3/21/25 at 2:30 pm
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:42 pm to
Dont care. I want every single illegal out of the country. If someone truly has an asylum claim they should be housed somewhere remote. Like the desert of Arizona.

But most asylum seekers arent here because of death threats etc. They want benefits, free stuff etc. and use asylum as an excuse to stay here.

They can have that free stuff in a tent in Arizona or they can return to their home country. They can decide.
Posted by SoFlaGuy
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Apr 2020
1930 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 2:44 pm to
One is too many. Biden should hang for letting them in.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
28473 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:07 pm to
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I was just wondering about how the President arrived at such a precise number.


This may come as a shock to some of you, but the President has access to information that the vast majority of us do not. That means every President from Washington to Trump 2.0. If the man says a specific number, then there is likely a pretty good chance he has seen the information.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7878 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:13 pm to
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I was just wondering about how the President arrived at such a precise number.



You don't think he can make a call and find out how many prisoners were released form a Venezuelan prison/prisons?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5241 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:22 pm to
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You don't think he can make a call and find out how many prisoners were released form a Venezuelan prison/prisons?


If there were ANY Venezuelan murderers who were released to come to the United States, I would hope that our government would release that information to get the public's assistance.

If any such people had been captured by ICE, it would be headline news.

Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20128 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:25 pm to
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For instance, is there ANY evidence that people were "sent from prisons" to invade the US? If so, what was the name of any of the prisons or prisoners?


It takes less than two minutes to search this and see it is true.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7878 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:27 pm to
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If there were ANY Venezuelan murderers who were released to come to the United States, I would hope that our government would release that information to get the public's assistance.


What do you think happened with Biden's open border? I can imagine that's the reason most were in a Venezuelan prison in the first place. Where do you think the Tren da Aragua guys came from?
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3454 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:27 pm to
Another Retard from the cuckoo factory
Posted by Deacon
Miami, FL
Member since Dec 2009
233 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:27 pm to
1 is too high a number. Afuera!!
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
24615 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:29 pm to
If the number is anything other than 0, then it's a problem.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5241 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:44 pm to
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If the man says a specific number, then there is likely a pretty good chance he has seen the information.


That or he's just making up a statistic that sounds good. I know I am in the minority here, but I would just like to see SOME specific evidence to support specific claims.

Dangerous, illegal aliens are no doubt a serious problem. Trump has done a great job in fulfilling his promise to solve the problem.


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