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Holy Cow 20% of the education budget in Mississippi and Alabama comes from DOE

Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:23 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:23 pm
Is this just going to be gone now? Mississippi is getting rid of income tax this year. (And good riddance, nothing is more corrupt the Mississippi Department of Revenue)

A lot of this is due to federal mandates on students with disabilities act and all the Titles. Is Trump getting rid of that too?

Are they going to replace this with state grants? I am totally cool with it if that’s the situation, but seriously we can’t get much dumber in these states
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:26 pm to
Title 1 is a real bitch, we have had to pay 65k for a special needs teacher for one damn student many times. (Or they sue you and you pay for a special needs teacher and attorneys fees)
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58900 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:26 pm to
LA/MS/AL are federal welfare states
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
5239 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:28 pm to
You sound like an abused housewife
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:30 pm to
Pretty much true, everyone hates California and Washington but they basically pay for these states.

I will add this, when I first started each school had a principal and one vp. When I left each school had a principal and 3 vps. Same problem exist in colleges. The real problem with educational systems is the school non teaching bureaucracy has increased like 500% since the 80s, while actual teachers is about the same. That and all the consultants groups everywhere.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 9:33 pm
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2077 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:32 pm to
We spend the most on the population that will be least likely to contribute.

This says we as a people are very empathetic but perhaps it should change.

Perhaps we should spend more on those in the middle where education and motivation is most impactful.
Posted by tigerjjs
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
1364 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:32 pm to
I think the states will receive the money IIRC
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42038 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

A lot of this is due to federal mandates on students with disabilities act and all the Titles. Is Trump getting rid of that too?


I don't think so. Some of that requires congress to approve.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135800 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:33 pm to
The DOE is unnecessary. That money would go directly to the state, where it should.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:35 pm to
People have no real idea about how true that is.

We also spend most of our school board time on the biggest problem students. We should just end compulsory school attendance to age 16 and make it 12 max if anything at all.

The kids that didn’t want to be there really should just be let go
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73117 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:35 pm to
The money is being given to the states directly via block grants per EO signed today
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:36 pm to
I am not in any way defending DOE, I am just completely against unfunded mandates.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37688 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

Perhaps we should spend more on those in the middle where education and motivation is most impactful.


it’s true. The bottom 25% and the disciplinary issue kids need to be pulled from the classroom and put in an alternative track starting in 6th grade.

Not separate classrooms. Separate school entirely. One focused on life skills, communication skills, financial literacy, and by high school directed into some sort of career pathway.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 9:40 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
153993 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

We should just end compulsory school attendance to age 16 and make it 12 max if anything at all
so they can run amok in the streets
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35747 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:40 pm to
It still would, dumbass. Just without the LCD beurocracy.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
11886 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:42 pm to


$10 will fix a LOT of issues
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58900 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

Pretty much true, everyone hates California and Washington but they basically pay for these states.

big city tax dollars keep rural areas alive too
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
60435 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

Is this just going to be gone now? Mississippi is getting rid of income tax this year. (And good riddance, nothing is more corrupt the Mississippi Department of Revenue)


Sales tax, property tax, car tags, etc. here we come!
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:59 pm to
A kid's success in high school and college comes down to:

95% - how the parents raise them, do they enforce hard work, did they divorce and argue a ton, did they show them how to live life correctly

&

5% - how good the high school is they attend.

I know plenty and plenty of kids that are doctors, private equity, and engineers that went to Byrd High School, a public school in 2nd lowest ranked state in education. What was the common factor there? Parents who showed them how to live life right. That's why I think it's asinine when people scramble to get a house in the best school districts or pay outrageous private school tuitions. How you raise your kids is vastly, vastly more important than what kind of high school they attend whether average or good school, doesn't matter. Parenting matters exponentially more to how they turn out academically and professionally successful.

It actually benefits you in Texas to go to a more average public high school as they auto-admit top 8% or so of each senior class. Go to St Johns and you need a 34 ACT type grades to be top 8%.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72081 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

big city tax dollars keep rural areas alive too


And food from rural areas keep big cities alive… literally.
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