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WSJ: Faculty-on-Faculty War Erupts at Columbia
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:09 am
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:09 am
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Columbia University is fighting two wars at once. One rages publicly against President Trump, whose administration in recent days ordered the arrest of a student protester and canceled federal funds to the Ivy League school over allegations of antisemitism.
The second conflict simmers behind the scenes: a faculty civil war that pits medical doctors and engineers against political scientists and humanities scholars over how to handle pro-Palestinian demonstrations that have disrupted campus life.
In February, well before Trump made Columbia exhibit A in his effort to reshape elite colleges, seven Jewish faculty from the engineering, medical, and business schools, along with prominent deans and a representative for Jewish alumni, met with Columbia interim President Katrina Armstrong. They asked her to get ahead of Trump’s moves by implementing a series of restrictions on protesters, including banning masks on campus, according to people in attendance.
Faculty who attended the meeting said Armstrong’s response was to kick the can down the road.
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Last week, the Trump administration said it would cancel roughly $400 million in federal contracts and grants to Columbia. On Monday, notes went out informing faculty about the frozen money.
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Columbia is among schools under scrutiny by the Trump administration for allegedly failing to protect Jewish students during the pro-Palestinian demonstrations that disrupted campuses nationwide last year over the war in Gaza. Columbia, the epicenter of the demonstrations, drew especially heated criticism from some alumni for what they perceived as the university’s tepid response.
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Divisions often exist between disciplines at colleges, but the fissures cut particularly deep at Columbia because of the high number of both Jewish faculty who support Israel and faculty who believe Israel is committing a genocide against the Palestinians.
A half-century ago, Columbia professor Edward Said was among the founders of postcolonial studies that laid the intellectual groundwork for the current protest movement against Israel. A nucleus of his acolytes remain at Columbia and are active on campus.
Those faculty more sympathetic to Palestinians control key committees on the faculty senate and have sought to limit discipline against protesters and restrictions on protests. That helps explain why Columbia didn’t restrict student disruptions on campus as aggressively as other schools, according to interviews with faculty members.
Across campus, scientists and engineers have been less invested in the protests partly, several said, because they were too focused on their work to get involved. Now those researchers are being disproportionately punished by having grants and contracts canceled, said Larisa Geskin, a professor in the school of medicine at Columbia and cancer researcher.
“We’re actually quite busy. We’re actually doing our job,” said Geskin. Medical doctors and scientific researchers “are trying to save lives. We don’t have the time to ruminate on all this.”
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Science faculty are unhappy Trump has pulled funding, but some alumni said they are glad the situation is finally coming to a head. They hope his moves will strengthen resolve within the board of trustees and president’s office.
“Due to the failure of leadership at the university who did not heed many, many warnings, Trump had no choice,” said Ari Shrage, co-founder of the Columbia Jewish alumni association.
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Medical and engineering professors vs political science and humanities professors. I know which ones I’d listen to.

Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:14 am to ragincajun03
One is turning out productive members of society, one is turning out unhinged idiots with worthless degrees that were counting on us to pay off their hundreds of thousands of dollars of student loans.
Choice seems easy Columbia.
Choice seems easy Columbia.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:16 am to Icansee4miles
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Choice seems easy Columbia.
Seems easy, but sounds like their President chose to listen to the humanities side instead.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:20 am to ragincajun03
The students who are just trying to get an education should be able to learn without the disruption caused by the protesters
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:34 am to ragincajun03
Zooming out from the Israel/Palestine issue, this actually captures one of the core problems in higher ed very well.
When a university generates a grant, somewhere between 50% and 70% of the value of that grant go into the general education fund. Meaning grants are a huge source of funding for universities. As a huge source of their funding, they desperately want faculty who can generate grants.
Well, who do you think it is that is most qualified to generate a grant? Is it the history professor? The sociologist? Or the gender studies expert? Of course not, it’s the professors in STEM and business fields. So those professors are endlessly pushed to pursue grants to prop up the bottom line of the university. Meaning faculty governance, that part of the university where faculty make rules and regulations guiding the direction of the institution, is offloaded to those other disciplines who can’t generate grants.
And you end up in a position where all the most productive professors have the least say on the direction and policies governing the universities. While all the least productive get the leadership experience, which then results in those who are the least productive being the ones who get promoted into administration. And on and on the cycle goes, as the professors with the least value to add to society end up in the highest leadership positions at our country’s most important education institutions.
It’s bad incentive packed on top of bad incentive, and the result is the very definition of systemic failure.
When a university generates a grant, somewhere between 50% and 70% of the value of that grant go into the general education fund. Meaning grants are a huge source of funding for universities. As a huge source of their funding, they desperately want faculty who can generate grants.
Well, who do you think it is that is most qualified to generate a grant? Is it the history professor? The sociologist? Or the gender studies expert? Of course not, it’s the professors in STEM and business fields. So those professors are endlessly pushed to pursue grants to prop up the bottom line of the university. Meaning faculty governance, that part of the university where faculty make rules and regulations guiding the direction of the institution, is offloaded to those other disciplines who can’t generate grants.
And you end up in a position where all the most productive professors have the least say on the direction and policies governing the universities. While all the least productive get the leadership experience, which then results in those who are the least productive being the ones who get promoted into administration. And on and on the cycle goes, as the professors with the least value to add to society end up in the highest leadership positions at our country’s most important education institutions.
It’s bad incentive packed on top of bad incentive, and the result is the very definition of systemic failure.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:37 am to ragincajun03
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because they were too focused on their work to get involved
Diversity hire President and do-nothing professors can't fathom what that's like
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:39 am to ragincajun03
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Seems easy, but sounds like their President chose to listen to the humanities side instead.
Interim president that was appointed only a few months ago. The main blame goes to Columbia’s ex-president from Egypt was forced to resign.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:40 am to funnystuff
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Well, who do you think it is that is most qualified to generate a grant? Is it the history professor? The sociologist? Or the gender studies expert?
It was when you had the Biden lunatics running the federal government, but it shouldn’t have been.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:41 am to ragincajun03
quote:Interim President
Katrina Armstrong
Grew up in Al-a-BAMA so she’s suspect from the get-go.
Graduated from Yale (‘86) with a degree in Architecture, got her MD in ‘91 from Johns Hopkins and an MS in Clinical Epidemiology from Penn in ‘98.
Married, 3 kids

ETA: Looks like British actor Alan Davies
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 8:42 am
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:50 am to ragincajun03
I was on Ancestry.com recently and learned that I'm allegedly a direct descendant of the person that started Columbia. CSB.
On behalf of my family, I would like to apologize to everyone for this incident.
On behalf of my family, I would like to apologize to everyone for this incident.

This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 8:51 am
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:52 am to ragincajun03
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political scientists and humanities scholars
Also code for people who couldn't.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:52 am to ragincajun03
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medical doctors and engineers against political scientists and humanities scholars
So people who matter vs a bunch of dreamers?
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:04 am to funnystuff
When FedGov makes money available for Gender Studies grants, people find ways to file for those grants.
Due to their nature, I would theorize that they are less likely to be attacked in peer review because it's hard to measure feelings and outcomes, so they get published and become dogma. A theory on eggshells creating stronger concrete can be scientifically assailed with the data the researcher created in short order. That's part of the scientific process in the latter case, of course. But it probably also contributes to the hard sciences wanting to take fewer flyers and risks to test a hypothesis which may be an utter failure. To me, failure in that vein solves a purpose, but for the kinds of people in the humanities, and in politics, it's a dirty word.
Due to their nature, I would theorize that they are less likely to be attacked in peer review because it's hard to measure feelings and outcomes, so they get published and become dogma. A theory on eggshells creating stronger concrete can be scientifically assailed with the data the researcher created in short order. That's part of the scientific process in the latter case, of course. But it probably also contributes to the hard sciences wanting to take fewer flyers and risks to test a hypothesis which may be an utter failure. To me, failure in that vein solves a purpose, but for the kinds of people in the humanities, and in politics, it's a dirty word.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:05 am to ragincajun03
It’s a big problem in the medical community, especially those that work at research institutions. Everything is frozen because the future baristas of America continue to throw uniformed temper tantrums.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:14 am to ragincajun03
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Medical and engineering professors vs political science and humanities professors. I know which ones I’d listen to.
Here’s the thing - they’re at Columbia so we know that they’re all far left f*cking whackjobs.
Much like the Ukrainian war, it’s hard to root for one side of the other. You just hope they both lose. But, in the meantime, all you can do is enjoy it!
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 9:47 am
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:23 am to ragincajun03
College faculty covil war: LINK
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:23 am to ragincajun03
"President Trump, whose administration in recent days ordered the arrest of a student protester and canceled federal funds to the Ivy League school over allegations of antisemitism."
Gotta love the suppression of free speech. Talk about being woke LOL.....sooooooo thin skinned.
The morons protesting in support of Palestine, are, unfortunately, exactly who the first amendment applies to. It is not about popular speech....everyone hates cancer....its about unpopular speech....a few idiots in the world probably think cancer is a positive thing in that it keeps the human population in check. Its the latter the first amendment is protecting.
Gotta love the suppression of free speech. Talk about being woke LOL.....sooooooo thin skinned.
The morons protesting in support of Palestine, are, unfortunately, exactly who the first amendment applies to. It is not about popular speech....everyone hates cancer....its about unpopular speech....a few idiots in the world probably think cancer is a positive thing in that it keeps the human population in check. Its the latter the first amendment is protecting.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:24 am to ragincajun03
Surprised they haven’t changed the name Columbia to something more PC
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