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03/03/25: ATL Fed predicts GDP to fall by -2.8% in 1Q25

Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:03 pm
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
261 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:03 pm
Driven by expanding trade deficits, declines in consumer confidence & spending and lower levels of private investment



https://atlantafed.org/cqer/research/gdpnow
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
55411 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:09 pm to
GDP growth has been increasingly due to debt growth (both public and private) to the point where any GDP growth is depending solely on debt growth.

Imagine what that looks like when consumers start defaulting.
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
3164 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:09 pm to
Probably because no one bought anything on Friday.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117009 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:09 pm to
Anyone else miss Joe yet?
Posted by rickyb223
In your walls
Member since Jan 2025
430 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:11 pm to
I thought this might happen.

If 20% of the TOTAL budget is fraud, then eliminating that will (short term) drop a nuke on GDP.

Long term this will help though.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
33532 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:17 pm to
Let me guess, we’ll go back to the traditional definition of a recession now.
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
2787 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:22 pm to
No
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16779 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:40 pm to
Any cut on govt spending or employees will impact GDP. It’s a necessary pain.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:44 pm to
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Imagine what that looks like when consumers start defaulting


+1
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
261 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:51 pm to
Businesses are not going to invest / banks are not going to lend in an economic environment that is this uncertain
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
4741 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:52 pm to
How do you drive completely off a cliff like this???? Why are the blue chips all solidly in a good place for two months, almost no material changes, then BOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM fricking nightmare territory.

This makes no sense to me.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
9931 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:55 pm to
Have their predictions ever been right? They always revise gdp down during a dem and revise up during a rep. Theyre as reliable as a 1-800 psychic number.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53162 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

How do you drive completely off a cliff like this???? Why are the blue chips all solidly in a good place for two months, almost no material changes, then BOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM fricking nightmare territory.



I don't know, it is almost as if there was a disruption to the system a couple months ago and it is now starting to show effects.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:11 pm to
Trump is the definition of do something guy.

Things broken and need to fix? Do something


Things working fine as intended? Do something

Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
25318 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Let me guess, we’ll go back to the traditional definition of a recession now.


Yep, lol.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:15 pm to
quote:


GDP growth has been increasingly due to debt growth


Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132599 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:25 pm to
Wall Street needs a correction so bad. Plus the U.S. needs help pumping those bond prices higher to reduce interest rates as money flows from Wall Street to the bond markets.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:30 pm to
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Anyone else miss Joe yet?


Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45898 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:32 pm to
Recession been a long time coming
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
4741 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

quote:

How do you drive completely off a cliff like this???? Why are the blue chips all solidly in a good place for two months, almost no material changes, then BOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM fricking nightmare territory.



I don't know, it is almost as if there was a disruption to the system a couple months ago and it is now starting to show effects.


Assuming that is correct, why do all the blue chip analysts continue to predict high-2pct growth as if nothing is happening for months, then come out yesterday and say "JUST KIDDING WERE SCREWED"?

Shouldn't that blue line have slowly started to taper downward if something happened a few months ago?

And what are you alluding to? Trump's inauguration? Surely you don't think he can drive the economy off the cliff that fast, do you?
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