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Economic Racism
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:30 am
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:30 am
I read about this term recently and was curious about what other people’s thoughts are.
I did not invent this term and I’m not trying to argue that this is or isn’t a reality.
The book was published in 1974, so what has been called “the racial inferiority” hypothesis wasn’t mainstream at the time. Even if you remove the race aspect, what are your thoughts on the idea that government handouts are give to placate the masses during periods of civil unrest, then rolled back when political stability is restored? We saw this happen during COVID, after natural disasters, etc.
I did not invent this term and I’m not trying to argue that this is or isn’t a reality.
The book was published in 1974, so what has been called “the racial inferiority” hypothesis wasn’t mainstream at the time. Even if you remove the race aspect, what are your thoughts on the idea that government handouts are give to placate the masses during periods of civil unrest, then rolled back when political stability is restored? We saw this happen during COVID, after natural disasters, etc.
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:49 am to 4cubbies
The liberal policies in the 1960s and onward helped the breakdown of black families and contributed to many of the woes still facing black communities.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:51 am to 4cubbies
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what are your thoughts on the idea that government handouts are give to placate the masses during periods of civil unrest, then rolled back when political stability is restored?
It's been happening since the advent of fiat money and the printing press. Governments pay off their allies, families, friends, supporters, patrons, and occassionally throw a few bills to their disgruntled subjects when it seems necessary to prevent an uprising or an election is approaching. Then they borrow more or just create out of thin air as needed. In the "modern monetary theory" era we've done away with the rollbacks; the graft accelerates year by year.
If they had to send the taxmen around to collect those handouts, the handouts would end a lot sooner, with less dire outcomes for all (or most) concerned.
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:52 am to 4cubbies
My thoughts are that blacks and liberals will never run out of excuses for why blacks fail to succeed in America but the one thing that will never happen is they will never take any of the blame themselves. For the better part of 40 years the Democratic party has existed almost entirely to absolve black people of all responsibility for themselves
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:54 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:56 am to DefCon1
Do you think those policies were put in place to ensure a black lower-class that would have no choice but to work menial jobs for little pay?
Maybe the ultimate goal wasn't to have black people make up that class necessarily, but they were the easiest group to pigeonhole into it.
Maybe the ultimate goal wasn't to have black people make up that class necessarily, but they were the easiest group to pigeonhole into it.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:57 am to 4cubbies
I think that the white privilege concept is silly and basically a liberal boogeyman and excuse for people who don't want to hold themselves accountable for where they are or are not at this point in their life.
The only area where I think that white privilege applies, however, is property ownership. A white guy is way more likely to inherit a house or property from their parents. Even if you have to split it several ways with your siblings, it's still can be a nice chunk of money, and property is wealth.
The only area where I think that white privilege applies, however, is property ownership. A white guy is way more likely to inherit a house or property from their parents. Even if you have to split it several ways with your siblings, it's still can be a nice chunk of money, and property is wealth.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:57 am to VADawg
sorry for the small font. I'm blind too. Pressing ctrl and the plus sign at the same time will zoom in.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:57 am to 4cubbies
There only being one political party has been a thing for a while.
Back then then biggest difference was democrats were a little more willing to give handouts to the poor, blacks and antiwar peeps to keep them in line.
Back then then biggest difference was democrats were a little more willing to give handouts to the poor, blacks and antiwar peeps to keep them in line.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:57 am to 4cubbies
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Even if you remove the race aspect, what are your thoughts on the idea that government handouts are give to placate the masses during periods of civil unrest, then rolled back when political stability is restored?
This Keynesian economics. When it's not rolled back it's MMT. This is the economic system we live under now.
Austrian economics>>>>Keynesian economics>>>>>MMT>>>>>Socialism>>>>Communism.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:58 am to 4cubbies
Piven and CLoward are not trustworthy and are indeed Democrat activists.
Youre way too easily influenced by fake academic shite.
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The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. The strategy aims to utilize "militant anti poverty groups" to facilitate a "political crisis" by overloading the welfare system via an increase in welfare claims, forcing the creation of a system of guaranteed minimum income and "redistributing income through the federal government".[1][2][3]
Youre way too easily influenced by fake academic shite.
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:59 am to 4cubbies
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Do you think those policies were put in place to ensure a black lower-class that would have no choice but to work menial jobs for little pay?
The thing that's often overlooked from the Great Society is quality of life for black folks. At least the projects had insulation and real roofs and automated heating and air conditioning and reliable water and sewage. There are still some remnants in the black neighborhoods around here how black folks lived in Jim Crow. It was rough!
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:00 pm to 4cubbies
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Do you think those policies were put in place to ensure a black lower-class that would have no choice but to work menial jobs for little pay?
It was probably a mix of genuine compassion and strategic dependency.
This is why so many successful black Americans are becoming proud Republicans . They realized they are more capable of achieving equal outcomes if they leave the plantation and say no to handouts. It’s psychologically uplifting to feel unburdened when you stop externalizing the blame and own your own role in achieving success or failure.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:01 pm to wdhalgren
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It's been happening since the advent of fiat money and the printing press.
The "bread and circuses principle" is actually a lot older than fiat currency.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:01 pm to DefCon1
you sure it wasnt the crack the cia pushed?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:02 pm to 4cubbies
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Do you think those policies were put in place to ensure a black lower-class that would have no choice but to work menial jobs for little pay?
No. The same thing happened in Appalachia.
People used to move where the jobs were. When govt started handing out freebies, people stopped moving to where the jobs are and you developed pockets of poverty with people who are no longer fit to be in the job market.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:04 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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I think that the white privilege concept is silly and basically a liberal boogeyman and excuse for people who don't want to hold themselves accountable for where they are or are not at this point in their life.
Fair, but the dominant culture in the USA is white, so people who share that culture benefit from it because they are seen as either "normal" or "ideal." I don't really understand why anyone would try to deny that, except to paint themselves as some sort of victim.
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The only area where I think that white privilege applies, however, is property ownership. A white guy is way more likely to inherit a house or property from their parents. Even if you have to split it several ways with your siblings, it's still can be a nice chunk of money, and property is wealth.
A white guy is more likely to inherit a house or property from his parents because policies weren't enacted to prohibit white people from buying and maintaining homes in areas that weren't considered slums.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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People used to move where the jobs were.
Correct. Moving to places with jobs didn't necessarily help you get hired, though. Why was Black unemployment for autoworkers higher than White unemployment in Detroit at the height of automobile manufacturing there?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:08 pm to DefCon1
Welfare is available to all communities. That theory itself is an excuse.
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:09 pm to Willie Stroker
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It was probably a mix of genuine compassion and strategic dependency.
When you say "was," what time period are you referring to? Like when was relegating Blacks to low-skill jobs seen as compassionate? This kinda comes off combative, but it's not meant to be.
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