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Stanley Arnoux, Chip Vaughn, Kikaha, Rick Leonard etc…
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:38 am
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:38 am
Who was responsible for making these picks? I could go on and on with the obscure names. David Jones out of Wingate 

Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:43 am to Scientific73
Stanley Jean Baptiste
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:53 am to Scientific73
Any pick from the 4th round on you can't really judge harshly. The odds of late round picks making it to a gameday roster are slim.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:13 am to Scientific73
Kikaha was on his way to being a decent player until his injury.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:29 am to blueboxer1119
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Stanley Jean Baptiste
This board fawned themselves for weeks over this guy before the draft
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:49 am to blizzle
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Kikaha was on his way to being a decent player until his injury.
Tore his ACL twice in college. Warning signs were there and to think Oschner could protect him from injury was insanity.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:51 am to blizzle
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Stanley Arnoux, Chip Vaughn
We had four picks and also got Malcolm Jenkins and Thomas Morstead in that draft.
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Kikaha
Kikaha was on his way to being a decent player until his injury.
This. If you want to complain about that draft, complain about Stephon Anthony who was a first rounder but only lasted a few year in the league without doing anything.
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Stanley Arnoux, Chip Vaughn, Kikaha, Rick Leonard etc…
This is a random crap list. Some of these guys were drafted 15 years ago and the most recent is 7 years ago. Do you think it’s the same staff and scouts as then? That was two coaching staffs ago!
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:56 am to Suntiger
Cie Grant? Stephone Anthony?
We’ve been really poor at evaluating lb’s.
We’ve been really poor at evaluating lb’s.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:18 am to Scientific73
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Who was responsible for making these picks?
Ultimately Loomis, but realistically that is not how they operate, these decisions would have been made based on the scouting department, which has been overhauled entirely since all of these picks except for Leonard, who was a 7th round pick and not indicative of anything.
One of the things that fans do a lot is point to bad picks as reasoning for "why a team is bad at drafting", but the reality is that every single team, even dynasties / the absolute best drafting teams, miss on many (if not the majority) of their picks. We are no different.
I don't say this to defend the current Ireland-led scouting department specifically, they have had some bad misses in recent years, but they are not anywhere near terrible. They're for sure in the top half of scouting departments, and I'd argue top 10.
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 9:19 am
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:20 am to KhalMingo
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Cie Grant? Stephone Anthony?
We’ve been really poor at evaluating lb’s.
Did you really pull a guy from the Haslett days to compare to the current teas' ability to evaluate anyone
Looks like their LBer talent "evaluations" have been better since then. They did recently draft Pete Wenrer & Zach Baun



They also recently drafted Ford & Jackson; both 5th rounders, who have primarily been STers under the previous coaching staff
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:35 am to Weekend Warrior79
mickey was here. But u have to change personnel department ith some youth
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:55 am to Scientific73
David Jones was ok - we cut him in Training Camp and went to the Bengals and started a few seasons. Wasn't a super star but had a good career
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:57 am to Scientific73
Rick Leonard himself didn't expect to get drafted. ESPN didn't even have a picture of him for the draft profile.
That was an all time wtf pick
That was an all time wtf pick
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:40 pm to Scientific73
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Chip Vaughn
poor mouth lol
Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:50 pm to ClientNumber9
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Any pick from the 4th round on you can't really judge harshly. The odds of late round picks making it to a gameday roster are slim.
I still remember before I got banned on saintsreport for going ape shite over the Leonard pick. And a lot of posters had this same sentiment. It’s only a 4th round pick. The problem was the guy wasn’t even a starter on FSU. We drafted a backup off their oline. Every expert had him as an udfa. And we took him in the 4th.
The guy I said we should have drafted instead who was on the board. One Josh sweat who shoulda been named the superbowl mvp last week…..
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:58 pm to Townedrunkard
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got banned on saintsreport for going ape shite over the Leonard pick. And a lot of posters had this same sentiment. It’s only a 4th round pick. The problem was the guy wasn’t even a starter on FSU. We drafted a backup off their oline. Every expert had him as an udfa. And we took him in the 4th.
And the guy who signed off on this still gets to make the picks. I get the optimism on the new regime, but until the team is sold to hold Loomis accountable it’s a futile exercise.
This board has picked better than Loomis.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 5:44 pm to Scientific73
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Chip Vaughn
One year of his career was spent with the Saints. Saints had Chip Vaughn on the roster for one year in their franchise history. Saints won one championship in their franchise history. It was the one season Chip Vaughn was on the Saints roster. 100% of the seasons Chip Vaughn played for the Saints ended in a Super Bowl win.
Chip Vaughn = Championship
GOAT pick
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:36 pm to KhalMingo
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Cie Grant
Turned into a stud in Madden Franchise mode.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:43 pm to blizzle
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until his injury.
Was far from his first
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