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Cowherd says Kellen Moore will not last four years in New Orleans

Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:25 pm
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Kellen Moore has officially been named the new head coach of the New Orleans Saints, but Colin Cowherd of Fox Sports is not impressed.

Cowherd chimed in with his thoughts on the Saints' decision not long after the news broke.

"He'll be fine," Cowherd said. "They don't have any cap room, they've got a lot of issues. I think that's going to be, for the next couple of years, a dead franchise."

Cowherd also doesn't believe Moore will last four seasons in the Crescent City.

"Oh, he won't last four," he said. "They don't have cap space – I mean, does Derek Carr feel like he's a New Orleans guy? It doesn't feel like Brees. I just don't think they have enough good players and the NFC, as we watched Philadelphia getting in the playoffs, the NFC's getting better really fast.

"New Orleans feels like they're in cap hell. If I picked today, I'd have Saints last because I think Carolina is on the way up."
Posted by chewstick
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:41 pm to
Cowherd is right as much as he is wrong
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
12195 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:43 pm to
I think Kellen gets a lot longer leash bc of the current state of the franchise and so many ppl are (rightfully) pissed at Loomis.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:49 pm to
He’s not saying anything new
Posted by BBJ
BR
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:56 pm to
When you put yourself in a position that you have to restructure contracts of 34 plus year old players just to get cap compliance while doing drafts for example trading two first rounders for davenport or trading the next years first for what would be the eagles best dline player………

shite wii catch up and everything collin said is most likely accurate
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:01 pm to
If he's not here than that means Loomis isn't either. So it wouldn't be a terrible outcome
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
6074 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:11 pm to
Isn’t our cap situation pretty much solved after next season as long as we don’t extend and overpay our current old guys?
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5624 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:15 pm to
We have like 70 million in 2026 provided we don't do that.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:17 pm to
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I think Kellen gets a lot longer leash bc of the current state of the franchise and so many ppl are (rightfully) pissed at Loomis.


Agreed.

Cap issue will look much better in a year or two
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12421 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:19 pm to
We have to do something though bc we won't be compliant this season. Personally, I'd rather restructure Carr than several other players. Try to limit the damage to as few players as possible.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:21 pm to
I mean, he will last four years because we have one of the more patient (painfully so) front offices in organized sports.

Moore will be fine as coach. His success will be determined just like every other coach’s success is determined: can he hit on more draft picks than he misses and if he can find his guy at QB. If he only does 1 of those it probably buys him some time - especially if the team is more competitive and better coached than they were under DA - but he will eventually have to do both in order to make it to and win playoff games.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29275 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:32 pm to
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he's not here than that means Loomis isn't either. So it wouldn't be a terrible outcome



What part of loomis being Defacto owner don’t you understand? The good thing is that now all parties know what needs to be done as far as knocking things down to rebuild. Loomis is 70, so it wouldn’t shock me if he hands off more and more of his duties.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:41 pm to
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as long as we don’t extend and overpay our current old guys?


Except how do you think Loomis gets out of this years mess? I will answer for you, by extending our current old guys…
This post was edited on 2/11/25 at 10:42 pm
Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
1961 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:45 pm to
I dont give an F what Cowturd says. Him or Skip Bayless.
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 11:24 pm to
Nope Moore outlast Loomis
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 11:27 pm to
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Except how do you think Loomis gets out of this years mess? I will answer for you, by extending our current old guys…


They are going to find out real soon. Those Sportrac numbers for 2026 & 2027 are about to change as Loomis has until March 12th (2025 NFL League year officially starts) to get the team cap compliant for 2025.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
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Member since Nov 2015
5624 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 11:38 pm to
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We have to do something though bc we won't be compliant this season. Personally, I'd rather restructure Carr than several other players. Try to limit the damage to as few players as possible.


I'm kinda of the opinion we take whatever damage now rather than later. I know most think Carr is untradable but all the cap guys seem to think it's still the best path forward.

There are a few teams that need some more stable QB play that Carr may be able to help with. Indy and both NYs come to mind. May have to take on a portion of his salary to facilitate a trade but it's still better than nothing.

Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46249 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 12:03 am to
He's the Peej of sports talk
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31892 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:48 am to
I can make it work numbers wise WITHOUT touching Carr this year.

2025 Current situation: -54mil cap space
2026 outlook: +58.6mil cap space

Moves:
Cam Jordan: Restructure +9mil
- This is his last year, give him his hoorah and move along. We'll have to eat dead cap, but this at least spaces it over time. There's more lost if we cut him. Accept reality.

Taysom Hill: Restructure +5.8mil
- Last year, last hoorah; move money back. Cutting him gets you nothing, post June 1st saves 10mil. This is the lesser of two evils I guess since he is still a solid scatback player.

Erik McCoy: Restructure +6.7mil
- He is your anchor, accept it and move onto the next problem.

Demario Davis: Restructure +5.6mil
- He is your franchise captain. Last year of his deal. Give him his hoorah as well, I don't want to keep him any longer than 1 year, cutting him does zero for you.

Cesar Ruiz: Restructure +6.4mil
- We need a better OL, but we're stupid to commit to him before this. Cutting him isn't an option til next year. This year: get a damn LG and figure his situation out in 2026.

Ryan Ramczyk: Post June 1 Retirement +1.25mil
- Accelerate the dead cap (11mil), but its time for him to retire and live a happy life. Knee issues for his life before he turned 30 last year is a devastating reality

Carl Granderson: Restructure +5.25mil
- He's a solid rotation. Not the worst. Not the best. Just solid enough that you keep him here.

Tyrann Mathieu: Restructure +4.5mil
- The trio of Jordan/Davis/Mathieu are necessary bodies at this point. All 3 of them are on their last legs, give them their sendoff this year because cutting them brings you nothing anyway. Loose replacements are not the way to go because we need cap space to be compliant. Bring in a young safety for him to help (just like a DE, LB for the other 2)

Pete Werner: Restructure +2.5mil
- easy, move along

Foster Moreau: Restructure +2.0mil
- This is one option, the other is to extend him. He's in his last year, but all 3 years he's been rather productive. Not the worst backup to have and help groom a true #1TE (its not juwan).

Nate Shepherd: Post June 1st Cut +5.3mil (1.7mil dead)
- Seriously this run game is ATROCIOUS and one of he or Saunders has to go. Picking him because he's older, more expensive, and worse.

Rashid Shaheed: Restructure +2.07mil
- Easy decision or give him an extension IMHO. Just see what we can do

Jamaal Williams: Post June 1st cut +3.15mil (700k dead)
- Goodbye

JT Gray: Restructure +1.23mil
- Easy decision for your ST ace

Cedrick Wilson Jr: Cut +2.4mil (1mil dead)
- Such a lackluster pickup, thought it'd be better...young guys need to step up

After all that: +9.3mil over the cap for 2025. Carr can be cut next year to save 32.8mil (with 28.7mil dead, but nonetheless...nothing past that).

This is your projected players before free agency:
Offense:
QB: Carr/Rattler/Haener/Hill
RB: Kamara/Miller/RB3/Hill
WR: Olave/Shaheed/Austin/Means/Mims/Tipton
TE: [TE Starter]/Moreau/Hill/Holker
T: Fuaga/Penning/[Missing backup]
G: [Left Guard Starter]/Ruiz/Saldiveri
C: McCoy/[Missing backup]

Defense:
DE: [Missing Starter]/Granderson/Jordan/Foskey/[Another body]
DT: Bresee/[Missing NT starter]/Saunders/Ridgeway/Boyd/[Another body]
LB: Davis/Werner/[3rd linebacker]/Ford/Jackson
CB: [#1 CB]/McKinstry/Taylor/[Another body]
S: Mathieu/Howden[Another body]

ST:
K: Grupe
P: Hayball
LS: Wood

Really gotta knock this draft out...

Also moving forward
2026: +61.9mil cap space
2027: +187.9mil cap space
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17322 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 6:15 am to
He's right. Kellen is a sacrificial lamb to get New Orleans through what's going to be a rough stretch of years due to cap issues.
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