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For the fans who want a stop gap pawn for Head Coach.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:56 pm
This is the most important hire since CSP and Katrina.
Let Mickey do his job and sign Moore.
It’s exactly what we need. He will get to hire his staff and set his roster. Including the draft ( we have a lot of picks )
Tanking for 1-2 years without the right coach to build a culture right away is insane.
Let Moore build this franchise like he wants and support the next couple years regardless.
You young fans need to take a step back and realize this will take coaching. Not tanking.
Let Mickey do his job and sign Moore.
It’s exactly what we need. He will get to hire his staff and set his roster. Including the draft ( we have a lot of picks )
Tanking for 1-2 years without the right coach to build a culture right away is insane.
Let Moore build this franchise like he wants and support the next couple years regardless.
You young fans need to take a step back and realize this will take coaching. Not tanking.
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:58 pm to Mouth
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This is the most important hire since CSP and Katrina.
This hire is meaningless.
No coach can come in and win in the next 3 years. The likelihood that this coach is here in 5 is almost nil.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:27 pm to Mouth
Gayle as the HC and Mickey as the OC.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:37 pm to moneyg
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No coach can come in and win in the next 3 years.
I'd say 2 years. Next year is lost (cap cut will hurt), the next year will be developmental. 2027 could be a great year and the start of a new era.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:57 pm to Mouth
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You young fans need to take a step back and realize this will take coaching. Not tanking.
Okay old head. Aint a single coach in the world who can save this franchise if we keep playing mediocre ball. Almost every single playoff team EXCEPT the Chiefs and Pittsburgh are where they are because of GREAT drafts. The Lions have strung together 4 fantastic drafts and had 3rd stringers playing and still balling out.
Commanders have quietly been building through the draft and landed gold with JD.
The Rams won a Superbowl, then tanked for a few years and rebuilt through the draft.
Chargers? Draft last year. Texans? Draft last 3 years. Denver? Draft. Buffalo? Yeah, they had a few key players, but also built through the draft.
No one is going to turn this old arse roster into a Superbowl team. We need to cut our loses, suck for 3 years, trade every single player worth a damn for draft picks and HOPEFULLY, get lucky like the Lions and end up with 3 1st round picks and every single one is a stud in the NFL.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:11 am to Mouth
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Let Mickey do his job and sign Moore.
Who on this board is stopping him?
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For the fans who want a stop gap pawn for Head Coach.
Who is asking for a stop gap as their first option? Have seen posters say, if these coaches keep dropping, then get a stop gap. But have not seen anyone say we should target a stop gap
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:20 am to dat yat
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I'd say 2 years. Next year is lost (cap cut will hurt), the next year will be developmental. 2027 could be a great year and the start of a new era.
We’d need to draft like we’ve drafted once before.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:43 am to moneyg
Explain in detail why the Saints can’t win for 3 years. Be specific. Emotions not allowed.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:14 am to Mouth
Didn’t we just have a stop gap coach? We don’t need another.
(Spoiler alert: There’s no such thing as a stop gap coach. People calling for this are dumb)
(Spoiler alert: There’s no such thing as a stop gap coach. People calling for this are dumb)
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:27 am to NIH
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Explain in detail why the Saints can’t win for 3 years. Be specific. Emotions not allowed.
* Lack of talent on the current roster.
* Lack of opportunity to address talent on roster due to the cap issues the coach will inherit.
Item 2 will likely exist for 2-3 more seasons...I think 3. The talent we have on the roster now will get worse before it begins to get better.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:35 am to moneyg
I asked for details on the cap. Aren’t many of those contracts coming off the books within a year or two or are subject to cuts without implication?
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 9:36 am
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:37 am to dat yat
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I'd say 2 years. Next year is lost (cap cut will hurt), the next year will be developmental
Can you lay out a plan to get us under the cap in '25? Where will that plan leave us in '26?
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:37 am to NIH
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I asked for details on the cap. Aren’t many of those contracts coming off the books within a year or two or are subject to cuts without implication?
If you have an example, we can discuss.
Unfortunately we are already OVER the cap. We are so much over the cap ($54M) that we will have to again push money from this year into next year just to get under.
The obvious target is Carr.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:43 am to BadatBourre
Literally all those teams that you listed had a coaching change within the last few seasons.
Coaching most definitely matters.
And you could say that while those teams have done well in the draft recently, they also made some moves in free agency that have worked out.
Coaching most definitely matters.
And you could say that while those teams have done well in the draft recently, they also made some moves in free agency that have worked out.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:56 am to Mouth
Lots of picks and no money to sign them
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:44 am to moneyg
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This hire is meaningless. No coach can come in and win in the next 3 years. The likelihood that this coach is here in 5 is almost nil.
I remember a lot of fans felt the same way in 2006.
No one knows how Moore will do as HC but if you want to play the odds and say he’ll be gone in 5 years by all means take the bet but your assessment is not grounded in any evidence based reason. Just playing the odds.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:11 pm to Mouth
Rams hired McVay coming off a 4-12 and near league worse cap situation. Aging roster
49ers hired Shannhan coming off a 2-14, league worst cap situation coming off the Chip Kelly fiasco. Aging roster
The league is cyclical, this situation isn’t anything new. Great teams become bad before they become great again. The coaching hire absolutely matters and anyone who thinks differently doesn’t have a clue
49ers hired Shannhan coming off a 2-14, league worst cap situation coming off the Chip Kelly fiasco. Aging roster
The league is cyclical, this situation isn’t anything new. Great teams become bad before they become great again. The coaching hire absolutely matters and anyone who thinks differently doesn’t have a clue
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:13 pm to GynoSandberg
Come on, everyone knows NFL rebuilds take 5 years.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:18 pm to Mouth
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Let Moore build this franchise like he wants and support the next couple years regardless.
Regardless? That’s what fans who have season tickets have been doing since DA was foolishly hired and Loomis continued his drunken sailor spending and misguided drafts.
You’re suggesting continue with blind “regardless” support? Even if they kick the can for example and extend Carr another 2 years? Laughable.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:22 pm to St Augustine
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We’d need to draft like we’ve drafted once before.
Correct, no matter who we draft 3-5 players in this class will be required to start. The key question is are they quality players who can start elsewhere.
Starting a bust like Isiah Foskey just because you drafted him is not a good place to be.
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