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Quentin Tarantino: 2019 was the last year of movies
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:56 pm
Some pretty strong words from one of the best in the business:
What do y'all think?
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Quentin Tarantino has declared cinema’s time of death: 2019. The filmmaker and film scholar does not have a rosy outlook on the future of the medium, if there even is one. Speaking at a Sundance event (via Variety), Tarantino questioned: “What the frick is a movie now?” He went on, “What—something that plays in theaters for a token release for four fricking weeks? All right, and by the second week you can watch it on television. I didn’t get into all this for diminishing returns. I mean, it was bad enough in ’97. It was bad enough in 2019, and that was the last fricking year of movies.”
Deciding “the last year of movies” was the last year he personally released a film is sort of a funny thing to do, but of course Tarantino’s experience is what informed this opinion. And he was forecasting doom even in 2019, telling Deadline at the time that “I think a lot of us making movies are facing a dark night of the soul.” He said, “I know I am, and so are a lot of us who make movies, where movies were one thing to us, and they were this one thing for a long time. We are wondering if we’ll still be doing it this way 15 years from now. And my guess is not. I don’t know what it’s going to be like 15 years from now, but I don’t think this way will be the way.”
Making and releasing a film in 2019 “was a shite deal, as far as I was concerned,” Tarantino said at Sundance, and it’s only “gotten drastically worse.” That seems like a fair assessment— streaming had already thoroughly disrupted the theatrical model, and it still hasn’t fully recovered from the pandemic and subsequent strikes (at least as far as the box office numbers are concerned). And he’s not the only Hollywood creative to make such an observation. Multiple auteurs like John Waters and Todd Solondz have been up front about the difficulty of getting financing for their films. Nicole Kidman, one of the most employed actors in the biz, said last year that it’s hard to get a greenlight on anything (except maybe Deadpool). “I just think that’s the nature of what we’re dealing with now. Things are shrinking in terms of shows being done and films being made,” she said. “I definitely feel it. I’m sure most people in the industry feel it. I know the crews feel it. I know writers feel it.”
Tarantino still plans to make his “final” film, but he’s “in no hurry to actually jump into production,” he told the Sundance crowd, adding that he wanted his son to be old enough to join him on set and have memories of the experience. In the meantime, he’s “writing a play, and it’s going to be probably the next thing I end up doing. If it’s a fiasco I probably won’t turn it into a movie. But if it’s a smash hit? It might be my last movie,” he said.
What do y'all think?
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This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:08 pm to RollTide1987
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What do y'all think?
I think he's a fricking weirdo.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:15 pm to Arkapigdiesel
Yeah, there have been plenty of good movies since 2019. Very arrogant thing for him to say.
He’s a whiny brat
However, what he’s really talking about is how weird the business model is right now and he does have legs to stand on there.
Based on context, he’s talking a bit more into the business side of movies and everyone had their own model and their is no consistency so the actual creators are getting screwed while studios “experiment” with new business models
He’s a whiny brat
However, what he’s really talking about is how weird the business model is right now and he does have legs to stand on there.
Based on context, he’s talking a bit more into the business side of movies and everyone had their own model and their is no consistency so the actual creators are getting screwed while studios “experiment” with new business models
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:16 pm to RollTide1987
I think 2020 was a tipping point where Hollywood finally lost the allure of fantasy.
Pre 2019 most people were able to block out the politics of Hollywood and enjoy movies for what they are. Once the curtain was fully pulled back and people realize that 90% of the movie industry openly mocks and despises the consumers, going to a theater doesn’t feel like the adventure it once did.
I know this isn’t exactly what QT is talking about but it all ties together. Why would I spend 50.00 for tickets and snacks for my wife and I to go to the theatre when in 6 weeks I can watch it for 5.95 in my living room.
It’s the game they created.
Pre 2019 most people were able to block out the politics of Hollywood and enjoy movies for what they are. Once the curtain was fully pulled back and people realize that 90% of the movie industry openly mocks and despises the consumers, going to a theater doesn’t feel like the adventure it once did.
I know this isn’t exactly what QT is talking about but it all ties together. Why would I spend 50.00 for tickets and snacks for my wife and I to go to the theatre when in 6 weeks I can watch it for 5.95 in my living room.
It’s the game they created.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:26 pm to RollTide1987
I think QT's comments the past few years are putting him dangerously close to becoming the lame old man he swore he'd retire before becoming.
He loves all things film: filming with it, projecting it, restoring it. That's awesome. It's lame that he feels the need to constantly shite on the use of digital.
He doesn't like the distribution models changing. That's fine. Bitching that movies are no longer movies because most have shorter theatrical windows than what he grew up with is stupid.
The ways movies are made and produced has never been static. His complaints are thin veneer of elitism masking nostalgia, the most basic-bitch "everything was better in my day" garbage.
Also, I eagerly await his next film.
He loves all things film: filming with it, projecting it, restoring it. That's awesome. It's lame that he feels the need to constantly shite on the use of digital.
He doesn't like the distribution models changing. That's fine. Bitching that movies are no longer movies because most have shorter theatrical windows than what he grew up with is stupid.
The ways movies are made and produced has never been static. His complaints are thin veneer of elitism masking nostalgia, the most basic-bitch "everything was better in my day" garbage.
Also, I eagerly await his next film.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:52 pm to Jay Are
Very few good movies anymore. No storyline, just cartoons or special effects garbage. Independent films are better.
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:27 pm to RollTide1987
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one of the best in the business:
Meh
Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:37 pm to RollTide1987
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What do y'all think?
I think the internet turned everything into a low grade commodity and more or less killed art.
Technology has made things more convenient, but not better.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 4:28 am to tiger81
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Very few good movies anymore. No storyline, just cartoons or special effects garbage. I
And lets face it. No boobs was a bad move
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:51 am to RollTide1987
He's right. The last year we went to the theater. I saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, 1917, and Parasite that year and thought movies are on a roll. Then the bottom fell out, and we have some of the worst movie years ever. 2024 sucked and 2025 looks worse.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:57 am to RollTide1987
Maybe for Hollywood.
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 10:47 am
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:01 am to rebelrouser
Three great movies with original stories and extremely well done. I have watched each of them several times and every time I enjoy and appreciate them.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:47 am to rebelrouser
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He's right. The last year we went to the theater. I saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, 1917, and Parasite that year and thought movies are on a roll. Then the bottom fell out, and we have some of the worst movie years ever. 2024 sucked and 2025 looks worse.
He's complaining about how studios fund and release movies, not the quality of the finished products. The funding stuff makes sense.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:47 am to Jay Are
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He doesn't like the distribution models changing. That's fine. Bitching that movies are no longer movies because most have shorter theatrical windows than what he grew up with is stupid.
I think QT is referring to the culture of cinema. Where a movie would be released, sprout legs, and then grow as cinephiles discussed their theater experience at the watercooler, cafes, coffeehouses, etc. Movies were the center of pop culture, and most people wanted to be in the loop. Movie fans would have heated debates about the merits or meanings of the latest David Lynch film, and there would be plenty of interesting, modest films in the $10-30 mil range to be seen in theaters.
Now, like QT said, a film--usually the most expensive and widest appealing--may spend a 1-4 weeks in a theater simply as a loss leader. Movies have been knocked down several pegs in competition with social media/internet content, video games, and streaming entertainment. The distribution system has become top and bottom heavy, mostly megabudget tentpole fair or low-budget straight-to-streaming schlock. Instead of discussing the PT Andersons, Wes Andersons, Hal Hartleys, Greg Arakis, and David Croenenbergs of the world, people are more likely to be students of Star Wars, Marvel, and DC lore.
That's what QT is lamenting--the death of the traditional cinema experience and all that went with it.
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 11:49 am
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:50 pm to RollTide1987
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What do y'all think?
QT is the definition of a guy who sniffs his own farts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:10 pm to shutterspeed
If he really wants to help improve cinema after he retires from directing he should start his own production company and fund directors with original stories or unique vision. I would love to see him put out new movies from S. Craig Zahler for example. He has enough pull in the industry to get them some type of theatrical run at least.
As far as movies going to streaming quickly, that's just what consumers want today. Not much he can do about that.
As far as movies going to streaming quickly, that's just what consumers want today. Not much he can do about that.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 4:12 pm to RollTide1987
What about The Joker 2?
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 4:15 pm
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