Do we have a situation like Jacksonville with a GM?

I would think if more coaches come out and say they will not coach the Saints bc of Loomis then I think Gayle would fire him.

I’ve taken in a ton of media about both the saints and the jags coaching situations.

If these candidates are as plugged in to the Baalke situation as everyone believed, you can’t help bot think they’re not exactly thrilled about loomis.

One of the biggest things repeated ad nauseam was a lot of these higher profile coordinators from currently successful franchises want to be in lockstep with their GM about building a winner.

They apparently didn’t like that Baalke had survived a high body count of head coaches both in SF and Jax. It wasn’t really about his middle of the road player personnel moves.

Mickey has a similar cockroach type ability in that it seems like he will basically be the guy regardless of results and HC comings and goings.

Tack on the fact that our salary cap situation is far worse than Jax or anyone else and you can’t help but think it’s viewed in the same light as they were pre Baalke firing.

I’m sure that will be taken as “melting” by our vocal yet also self proclaimed hyper stoic super fans.

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I ask this because Aaron Glenn wanted Loomis gone, Gayle refused, so he went to the Jets

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Wait, what?

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would think if more coaches come out and say they will not coach the Saints bc of Loomis then I think Gayle would fire him.

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It’s clear that Loomis is an anchor at this point. Get him out and maybe they can get somewhere. He’s made continuous shitty decisions drafting, free agency, and the DA hire (and publicly stating he wanted to retain him and apologized for firing). Can anyone point to a good reason for keeping Loomis?

It’s def a what have you done for me lately business. I can think of about 16 years that are a good reason to keep him. But the last 3 years have been unacceptable. I don’t expect a gm to be perfect and make every right decision but, him doubling down on Allen and comparing him to all time greats and the whole “look past the results” are a major red flag for me.

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you guys believing the Glenn story is literally like twitter chick fan fic.

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And you guys dismissing it is the ultimate in black and gold denial.

The Saints may have the worst roster, definitely the worst cap, and a scouting department that has proven atrocious since 2017. Add the Zack Baun and T Rex disasters to the mix.

It’s much more outlandish to suggest the tweet was false given it’s an expected request from a coach in demand. These coaches know Sean Payton tried 3 times to get the frick out of NOLA. Good coaches are taking the job only on their terms.

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I’m just curious as to some of the reactions you’ll have if they end up with Brady, MM, etc and not Rizzi.

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I’ll be pleasantly surprised and excited because that will indicate Loomis has given up personnel control of the franchise. None of those names except Rizzi are taking the job with current structure.

No one is requesting Loomis to be fired. Any reports of that are total BS.

Fans opinion vastly differs from opinions of people on the inside.

Except there are people on the inside actually saying no one is not taking the Saint job because it’s f Loomis. Or that they want Loomis gone.

Except for clowns here. So believe whatever makes you feel good.

A GM that a coach can control at that