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First and goal at the 1YD line…

Posted on 1/12/25 at 11:16 pm
Posted by Caimani
Member since Sep 2023
634 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 11:16 pm
Texas and the Commanders both line their QB seven yards deep and promptly lose five yards when a QB sneak x4 is a guaranteed TD…it isn’t rocket science yet these football coaches can’t figure it out. How embarrassing
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 11:22 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
20749 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 11:23 pm to
Agree
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
37090 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 11:26 pm to
Truly crazy that every team doesn't have a tush push option lined up for themselves.
Posted by Caimani
Member since Sep 2023
634 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 11:29 pm to
If you don’t have a Hurts type QB then use an athletic TE like the Ravens…I mean Texas had Arch Manning and didn’t use him. It’s baffling.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
37090 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 11:34 pm to
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If you don’t have a Hurts type QB then use an athletic TE like the Ravens…I mean Texas had Arch Manning and didn’t use him. It’s baffling.
Yeah, it's insane.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
15574 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 11:36 pm to
The % of overall snaps a QB takes in shotgun now is insane and going under center is increasingly a rarity

Coaches probably aren't following the math correctly but fear of bad exchange is driving a lot. Less (but still very high) odds of a TD from shotgun vs. under center, but in shotgun the cost of failure is more likely to be 3 points as opposed to 0
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 3:00 am
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16707 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:34 am to
Too many OCs have fell on love with the read option. They like shotgun because the quarterback has space to see the field, make, call audibles, etc.

But when it's 4th and inches, on the goalline, you don't need to be reading anything. Good ole information. Lineman just block the man in front of you, push the pile forward. It's that simple. Stop overthinking things. You can play more fancy when you're at the 5 yard line.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17362 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:21 am to
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First and goal at the 1YD line…

Give me The Bus:

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38128 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:10 am to
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Truly crazy that every team doesn't have a tush push option lined up for themselves.


JJ Watt said the Bush push was impossible to stop.

Seasoned CFB fans used to hate when the tailback lined up 5 yards deep on 4th and 1.....now it's the quarterback and the RB is behind him.

What are we doing? Situational formations are a lost art.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 2:11 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35805 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:46 am to
QB sneaks and HB Power in short yardage situations aren't "creative" enough for 99% of offensive coordinators.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 6:13 am
Posted by Bayouboogaloocrew
Dixie
Member since Jul 2013
4256 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 6:57 am to
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Caimani


You are in multiple threads criticizing…the Redskins winning really made your pussy hurt didn’t it
Posted by Caimani
Member since Sep 2023
634 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:09 am to
I’ve been a Redskins fan my whole life Moron…you’re embarrassing yourself.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
14542 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:11 am to
The Ravens using Mark Andrews as the QB with the monster fullback and Derrick Henry behind him is the way to go.
Posted by Bayouboogaloocrew
Dixie
Member since Jul 2013
4256 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:44 am to
12 years huh
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124238 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:46 am to
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The % of overall snaps a QB takes in shotgun now is insane and going under center is increasingly a rarity



In yesterday's playoff game, Jalen Hurts threw a drop back pass after lining up under center, with no play action involved, for the first time.


In his entire NFL career.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
12701 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:56 am to
Nothing makes me more irrationally angry then watching a team I want to get a 4th and 1 or score from the 1 not get under center and just push forward.

If little Drew Brees could do it effectively, no excuse anyone can't.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15524 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:13 am to
I thought Texas' play calling was excellent in that situation...
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
14596 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:35 am to
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First and goal at the 1YD line…

DT or DE and tell em just go forward.
Bill “The Billdozer” Dauterive style.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19248 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:44 am to
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If little Drew Brees could do it effectively, no excuse anyone can't.

Thats the crazy part that more teams seem to not study what Brees was able to do in these types of situations. As another poster stated, you snap the ball, let your oline get a hat on a hat. Only difference was Brees would pause for a 1/2 second to find his gap to jump. I am sure he's reading the flow of the line while also watching where that LBer or Safety is creeping up. Make your big jump, extend the ball, then pull it back. You either get the TD, or you are right back where you started at the LoS.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10781 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:50 am to
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If you don’t have a Hurts type QB then use an athletic TE like the Ravens


Yeah, Hurts is a cheat code with the QB sneak. The only thing close to him would be a tight end. He takes the snap and is moving forward in one motion, while at the same time having the vision to veer left or right. Having his lower body strength is freakish as well. Speaking of TEs, that run after catch last night by Goedert last night was amazing. It explains why the Eagles are so successful at the sneak when he is pushing Hurts.
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