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What LSU MBB needs to do

Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:12 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:12 pm
I think it is time to go to a youth movement. Carter and Sears are warming up in the 1st half when we need them to GO.

Start CG3 and Vyctorius Miller and let them establish the game plan with Bailey, Collins, and Chest.

CG3 is starting to show some aggression on the offensive side.

Sears and Cartee have one more game to prove their value, otherwise bench them.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
12283 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:17 pm to
What LSU MBB needs to really do is tell Woodward to stop being so damn cheap with the basketball hires and go out and hire a freaking top notch HC for once in basketball. Auburn and Alabama did it. So can LSU.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 4:09 am to
what they need to do is wait. if MM makes the tournament, then relax. if he doesn't, then offer wade a record contract and an apology
Posted by Genestealer55
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 4:13 am to
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let them establish the game plan



There’s a gameplan?
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 4:54 am to
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Start CG3


he should be playing 0 minutes a game. he is not ready and no where near as good as mike williams was last year. not to mention mike was a 3* and curtis was a 4*

mike williams vs curtis givens through first 14 games of freshman season:
MW3: 7.3pts, 1.8ast, 1.9reb, 37.8%fg, 31.9%3pt
CG3: 4.3pts,1.7reb, 1.7ast, 27.1%fg, 23.9%3pt

but yet curtis needs to start?? do you see something i dont see?

this is doubly impressive when you consider mike was playing out of position and forced to play starting PG despite being more comfortable as a two guard. we didn't see this until later in the year when hannibal began running the point.


This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 5:11 am
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:32 am to
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What LSU MBB needs to do
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mmcgrath
Whatever this guy says, do the opposite. Regardless of the outcome, it’ll be an improvement.
Posted by Amused Lurker
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:18 am to
LSU athletics generates a little over $200m per year, the highest ever, under Woodward. However, they spend about 95% on the athletics program. Football generated about a $50m surplus (before revenue share hits) with about $105m in revenue and about $55m in expense.

I wonder if the return on a $6-9m men’s basketball coach is worth it? That’s the market now for top MBB salaries. LSU doesn’t generate the revenue to support that type of salary and I don’t think LSU has the basketball facilities yet to compete with top BBall programs.

For comparison, Mulkey and Johnson combined make $5m per year. And as much as people complain about Kelly, he’s #8 in Football at his $9.8m.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 8:20 am
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:33 am to
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I wonder if the return on a $6-9m men’s basketball coach is worth it? That’s the market now for top MBB salaries. LSU doesn’t generate the revenue to support that type of salary and I don’t think LSU has the basketball facilities yet to compete with top BBall programs.


MBB turns a profit yearly bc of the tv deal for March Madness and the shared revenue... even if we aren't the best program.

I think this kind of incentives Woodward to put MBB on the backburner
Posted by Ampipe96
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:44 am to
Isn’t that sort of backwards thinking? If you invested in the 2nd most revenue generating thing and made that better, your return would be better? I think at last calculation each tournament win is worth $2million paid over 5 years. So if you start stacking tournament wins and make it to the sweet 16 at least 3 years in a row, that’s $12 million extra.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:48 am to
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I think at last calculation each tournament win is worth $2million paid over 5 years. So if you start stacking tournament wins and make it to the sweet 16 at least 3 years in a row, that’s $12 million extra.


The money is handed out to the conference and distributed from there. Teams don't get more money the deeper they go. Money goes to the conferences in "units" based on total wins and is handed out equally.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 8:51 am
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:50 am to
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If you invested in the 2nd most revenue generating thing and made that better, your return would be better?
You would think. But maybe it’s easier for Woody to invest as little as possible, but just enough so it looks like you care as to not upset the SEC, and collect the yearly TV revenue and SEC sharing without much effort.
Posted by Ampipe96
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:52 am to
Sure, but the better the conference is , the more teams in the tournament, the more tournament wins, equals more overall money
Posted by tarzana
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:55 am to
The absence of Jalen Reed has impacted this team in a big way
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 1:44 pm
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:58 am to
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The absence of Cam Carter made itself known yesterday, in a big way
This statement has confused me.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:10 am to
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Sure, but the better the conference is , the more teams in the tournament, the more tournament wins, equals more overall money


Correct but it's a matter of return. It's quite clear admin is content with making profit without wanting to invest too deeply into MBB.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:43 am to
there is a big piece missing but it's not Carter
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
2995 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:18 pm to
If Willl Wade lost his big man at McNeese they would be an averse team. He is a beast and their best player.Those who think losing Reed hasn’t made a difference in this team are idiots. Doesn’t forgive the TO which need to be addressed but not having Reed has factored into all 3 losses.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:23 pm to
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not having Reed has factored into all 3 losses
I’m pretty sure Reed played in the Pitt loss.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:29 pm to
He did
Posted by Slim
Poplarville, Mississippi
Member since Sep 2006
2948 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:30 pm to
Release McMahon from his contract and hire a better more proven winner that can win at a championship level.
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