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Can we discuss Woodward's LSU record?

Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:32 pm
Posted by WDAIII
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:32 pm
Fires LSU's best or 2nd best basketball coach ever

Gives a fool a ridiculous buy out

Hired the wrong ND coach and put us in a 10 year $100 mil hole
Posted by AkronTiger
Rubber City
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:35 pm to
Mulkey
Johnson

National championships in WBB, baseball, gymnastics

If we’re going to debate this we have to be honest about it.
This post was edited on 1/4/25 at 6:37 pm
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:37 pm to
Hired the wrong notre dame coach based on what exactly?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65541 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:37 pm to
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If we’re going to debate this we have to be honest about it.


None of the sports you listed are cash positive. Baseball is probably the closest to breaking even.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
17796 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:38 pm to
It gets worse. If Woodward had his way Jimbo Fisher would be our football coach. There's no point in making any coaching changes while he's in charge of the hiring process.
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:38 pm to
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Hired the wrong ND coach and put us in a 10 year $100 mil hole


Last time I checked Freeman has as many semifinal wins as Kelly right now.
Posted by Swagga
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:39 pm to
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If we’re going to debate this we have to be honest about it.




You’re in the wrong place. This thread already has two of the worst posters on this board taking part in it. There’s no room for rational or honest discussion.
Posted by AkronTiger
Rubber City
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:41 pm to
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None of the sports you listed are cash positive. Baseball is probably the closest to breaking even.


I thought we were debating Woodward’s hiring record. Is that not what we’re doing?
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22787 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:42 pm to
It’s a mixed back:

The good: baseball is back and it was pretty clean split with PM

Gym finally won a title and women’s basketball broke through as well.

The bad: we pay a lot for a woman’s basketball coach, we pay a lot for not great results yet in football. The O contract was a disaster.

We continue to look clownish in other aspects like our light show
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34736 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:42 pm to
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Last time I checked Freeman has as many semifinal wins as Kelly right now.
You really wanna do this?

Notre Dame just beat UGA to advance to the final 4 of the CFP. LSU is unranked and just played in the Texas Bowl.

Kelly still has time but would you rather be Notre Dame or LSUs football program right now?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:43 pm to
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Fires LSU's best or 2nd best basketball coach ever



Goodness gracious.

The legend of Wade on here is so much greater than what Wade was.

A good recruiter who was an ok coach.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82027 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:43 pm to
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Notre Dame just beat UGA to advance to the final 4 of the CFP.

Worst uga team in 6 years without their starting qb, sure
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20695 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:44 pm to
38 years old versus a burned out boomer
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:44 pm to
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would you rather be Notre Dame or LSUs football program right now?

Notre Dame. Wish we had a guy who could build that type of program
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65541 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:45 pm to
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I thought we were debating Woodward’s hiring record. Is that not what we’re doing?


The health of the AD is driven by football. It's extraordinarily weighted in that direction because it pays the bills for all the other sports. It's extremely pleasing to have good gymnastics, baseball, and WBB, but none of those championships move the needle other than some limited social media clout.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34736 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:46 pm to
Woodward firing of Will Wade was unfortunate but the NCAA was using him as a reason to come after football as well.

Wade had to go, I loved him but you don't talk shop on the fricking phone. He dug his own grave.

Jay Johnson and Kim Mulkey were both amazing hires.

Matt McMahon was a very good hire he's just not working out. Might be time to move on.

The Kelly hire has had mixed results but the biggest issue was the insane contract.

Kelly's success over the next couple of years will determine whether or not Scott Woodward gets to keep his job. Fairly or unfairly

From a personal stand point I wish LSU would remain loyal to Woodward but if Kelly doesn't make the playoffs by year 5, I don't think Scott will be retained.
Posted by WarBoudin
Member since Aug 2024
737 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:47 pm to
You’re cherry picking.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24779 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:48 pm to
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I thought we were debating Woodward’s hiring record. Is that not what we’re doing?


With pirate king the bar moves to wherever he needs for it to be negative. Just like he moved the bar to the positives when it came to Orgeron
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65541 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:49 pm to
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With pirate king the bar moves to wherever he needs for it to be negative.


I'm one of about two people on here not throwing in the towel on the basketball team after one loss
This post was edited on 1/4/25 at 6:50 pm
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
4014 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:49 pm to
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Notre Dame just beat UGA to advance to the final 4 of the CFP


Kalen D played for a title last year. Do you consider him a great coach given what happened this year at Alabama?

Ed Orgeron, Les Miles, Gene Chizik, Larry Coker all won championships. Do you consider them great?

Maybe give it a little more time before you crown Freeman as great.
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