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Great story about the transfer portal and nil in general
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:45 pm
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Talks about the huge spike in nil this cycle. Very interesting.
Mensah from Tulane got a 2 year deal for 8 mil to attend Duke.
Talks about the huge spike in nil this cycle. Very interesting.
Mensah from Tulane got a 2 year deal for 8 mil to attend Duke.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:50 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Mensah from Tulane got a 2 year deal for 8 mil to attend Duke.
Artificial bump to get players before revenue sharing goes into effect.
A QB who threw for 2700 yds on a G5 team isn't worth $4M/yr.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:58 pm to Chalkywhite84
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to attend Duke
I would have expected them to spend this type of money on a basketball player & not football.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 12:05 am to mortis381
Revenue sharing can't prevent individual boosters from dropping millions of their own dollars into someone they want.
There is no fix to this disaster that NIL has created. I argued this with people over a decade ago when people were crying about players needing to be paid. You cannot regulate spending, unless you create a salary cap, and that just affects contracts. You can't legally put a cap on endorsements (now that they've allowed amateurs to sign deals at all), which is all NIL boils down to. And the teams who have the biggest spending boosters will continue to do what they're doing. As far as I know, players are not currently allowed to be paid from school revenue, so if we introduce revenue sharing and start paying players with that, it will only be added on top of NIL.
And if anyone thinks revenue sharing is going to replace NIL, I think you'd better prepare to be disappointed. I don't think you can put that genie back in the bottle.
There is no fix to this disaster that NIL has created. I argued this with people over a decade ago when people were crying about players needing to be paid. You cannot regulate spending, unless you create a salary cap, and that just affects contracts. You can't legally put a cap on endorsements (now that they've allowed amateurs to sign deals at all), which is all NIL boils down to. And the teams who have the biggest spending boosters will continue to do what they're doing. As far as I know, players are not currently allowed to be paid from school revenue, so if we introduce revenue sharing and start paying players with that, it will only be added on top of NIL.
And if anyone thinks revenue sharing is going to replace NIL, I think you'd better prepare to be disappointed. I don't think you can put that genie back in the bottle.
This post was edited on 12/24/24 at 12:08 am
Posted on 12/24/24 at 12:36 am to Metaloctopus
There are reports that each NIL deal (next year) will have to go through a clearing house and will have to be fair market value for true NIL. In theory, that could work. Let’s hope it works in reality too.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 1:03 am to TigerBlood17
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There are reports that each NIL deal (next year) will have to go through a clearing house and will have to be fair market value for true NIL. In theory, that could work. Let’s hope it works in reality too.
Believe me, I'll hope against hope that something works. I just don't see anything panning out. Who determines "fair" market value? They're turning college into professional sports, and we all know there is nothing "fair" about the contracts given out, if we're talking about skill. Lots of overpaid players. The market is driven by bidding wars, which usually leads to desperate teams overpaying for what's left after the best players have been signed, simply because that team has a specific need. If a team wants to over pay, who can stop them, and by what legal means? If we don't make professional athletes have to go through a clearing house for their endorsement deals, what grounds do they have to pretend this is different? To me, calling it Name, Image and Likeness is a farce at this point. They're just getting paid outright to come to the school, before they can ever argue that they've generated any revenue through their name, image and likeness. That's why I call it a pseudo endorsement deal. They are getting paid in advance for the value the team expects, or hopes, they'll be worth. The loopholes are seemingly endless.
Again, whoever is tasked with trying to find a solution to this, I wish them well. I'm not holding my breath.
This post was edited on 12/24/24 at 1:09 am
Posted on 12/24/24 at 1:19 am to Chalkywhite84
Great article, thanks.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 5:56 am to Metaloctopus
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we all know there is nothing "fair" about the contracts given out, if we're talking about skill. Lots of overpaid players. The market is driven by bidding wars,
This makes it fair. The value of any player is set by the rarity of the value he provides (relative to other available players at that moment) and the number of teams competing for his services.
It’s up to the teams to determine how much they need that skill set and thus set the market.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 6:43 am to mortis381
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mortis381
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Artificial bump to get players before revenue sharing goes into effect.
The court system ruled the NCAA could not keep an athlete from making money from his Name-Image-Likeness
Technically the schools are not involved
Who is going to coordinate this revenue sharing
How can the courts say the Athlete has their right to make any amount of money but at the same time have to share their money
The more rules made makes for a very messy mess
Posted on 12/24/24 at 6:52 am to Metaloctopus
Hedge funds will own 51% interest in the top college football programs starting in 2025.
Nil is nothing but total free agency with no salary cap. Wall Street will drive nose bleed seats up to $500 and the rest of us can pay $50-100/game to stream on the internet.
Nil is nothing but total free agency with no salary cap. Wall Street will drive nose bleed seats up to $500 and the rest of us can pay $50-100/game to stream on the internet.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 7:28 am to BornAndRaised_LA
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The market is driven by bidding wars, This makes it fair. The value of any player is set by the rarity of the value he provides
College football is slavery
Posted on 12/24/24 at 7:34 am to mortis381
Well, if someone is willing to pay it, then actually he is worth it. It may be a bad investment, but somebody didn’t think so. Look at today’s stock market.
This post was edited on 12/24/24 at 7:40 am
Posted on 12/24/24 at 7:39 am to PUB
Unfortunately, you’re probably right. The only answer is people need to develop lives and activities outside of watching sports and stop spending money. There is too much cash flowing in for Private Equity to ignore and the NCAA is more than willing to take their cut.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:04 am to Chalkywhite84
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Mensah from Tulane got a 2 year deal for 8 mil to attend Duke.
That’s insane .
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:27 am to Amused Lurker
There's no way this Clearinghouse thing will work. Instead of coming through a collective, the collective will find 19 businesses and the athlete will use their NIL for advertising those business. It's just one more step but will be the same thing.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:31 am to Metaloctopus
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Revenue sharing can't prevent individual boosters from dropping millions of their own dollars into someone they want.
You missed the part of where all NIL would have to go through a clearinghouse for fair market value...
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:38 am to GetmorewithLes
then we will be back to extra $$$ under the table like the good old days
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:38 am to GetmorewithLes
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You missed the part of where all NIL would have to go through a clearinghouse for fair market value
You missed the Supreme Court part.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:46 am to TheRouxGuru
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College football is slavery
I hope this is sarcasm.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 9:02 am to GetmorewithLes
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You missed the part of where all NIL would have to go through a clearinghouse for fair market value...
I already addressed that when someone else brought it up. I see no legal standing for a clearinghouse to do anything meaningful about this. I'd love for them to be able to cut down on this crazy spending, but reality doesn't appear to align with that hope.
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