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Great story about the transfer portal and nil in general

Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:45 pm
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
31196 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:45 pm
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Talks about the huge spike in nil this cycle. Very interesting.

Mensah from Tulane got a 2 year deal for 8 mil to attend Duke.

This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 11:46 pm
Posted by mortis381
Member since Sep 2024
139 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:50 pm to
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Mensah from Tulane got a 2 year deal for 8 mil to attend Duke.


Artificial bump to get players before revenue sharing goes into effect.

A QB who threw for 2700 yds on a G5 team isn't worth $4M/yr.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21658 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:58 pm to
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to attend Duke


I would have expected them to spend this type of money on a basketball player & not football.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6388 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 12:05 am to
Revenue sharing can't prevent individual boosters from dropping millions of their own dollars into someone they want.

There is no fix to this disaster that NIL has created. I argued this with people over a decade ago when people were crying about players needing to be paid. You cannot regulate spending, unless you create a salary cap, and that just affects contracts. You can't legally put a cap on endorsements (now that they've allowed amateurs to sign deals at all), which is all NIL boils down to. And the teams who have the biggest spending boosters will continue to do what they're doing. As far as I know, players are not currently allowed to be paid from school revenue, so if we introduce revenue sharing and start paying players with that, it will only be added on top of NIL.

And if anyone thinks revenue sharing is going to replace NIL, I think you'd better prepare to be disappointed. I don't think you can put that genie back in the bottle.
This post was edited on 12/24/24 at 12:08 am
Posted by TigerBlood17
Member since Jan 2014
1505 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 12:36 am to
There are reports that each NIL deal (next year) will have to go through a clearing house and will have to be fair market value for true NIL. In theory, that could work. Let’s hope it works in reality too.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6388 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 1:03 am to
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There are reports that each NIL deal (next year) will have to go through a clearing house and will have to be fair market value for true NIL. In theory, that could work. Let’s hope it works in reality too.


Believe me, I'll hope against hope that something works. I just don't see anything panning out. Who determines "fair" market value? They're turning college into professional sports, and we all know there is nothing "fair" about the contracts given out, if we're talking about skill. Lots of overpaid players. The market is driven by bidding wars, which usually leads to desperate teams overpaying for what's left after the best players have been signed, simply because that team has a specific need. If a team wants to over pay, who can stop them, and by what legal means? If we don't make professional athletes have to go through a clearing house for their endorsement deals, what grounds do they have to pretend this is different? To me, calling it Name, Image and Likeness is a farce at this point. They're just getting paid outright to come to the school, before they can ever argue that they've generated any revenue through their name, image and likeness. That's why I call it a pseudo endorsement deal. They are getting paid in advance for the value the team expects, or hopes, they'll be worth. The loopholes are seemingly endless.

Again, whoever is tasked with trying to find a solution to this, I wish them well. I'm not holding my breath.
This post was edited on 12/24/24 at 1:09 am
Posted by Mr Happy
Member since May 2019
1773 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 1:19 am to
Great article, thanks.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5968 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 5:56 am to
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we all know there is nothing "fair" about the contracts given out, if we're talking about skill. Lots of overpaid players. The market is driven by bidding wars,


This makes it fair. The value of any player is set by the rarity of the value he provides (relative to other available players at that moment) and the number of teams competing for his services.

It’s up to the teams to determine how much they need that skill set and thus set the market.
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2823 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 6:43 am to
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mortis381


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Artificial bump to get players before revenue sharing goes into effect.


The court system ruled the NCAA could not keep an athlete from making money from his Name-Image-Likeness

Technically the schools are not involved

Who is going to coordinate this revenue sharing

How can the courts say the Athlete has their right to make any amount of money but at the same time have to share their money

The more rules made makes for a very messy mess

Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
19929 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 6:52 am to
Hedge funds will own 51% interest in the top college football programs starting in 2025.
Nil is nothing but total free agency with no salary cap. Wall Street will drive nose bleed seats up to $500 and the rest of us can pay $50-100/game to stream on the internet.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
11718 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 7:28 am to
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The market is driven by bidding wars, This makes it fair. The value of any player is set by the rarity of the value he provides


College football is slavery
Posted by Amused Lurker
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
1855 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 7:34 am to
Well, if someone is willing to pay it, then actually he is worth it. It may be a bad investment, but somebody didn’t think so. Look at today’s stock market.
This post was edited on 12/24/24 at 7:40 am
Posted by Amused Lurker
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
1855 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 7:39 am to
Unfortunately, you’re probably right. The only answer is people need to develop lives and activities outside of watching sports and stop spending money. There is too much cash flowing in for Private Equity to ignore and the NCAA is more than willing to take their cut.
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
2490 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:04 am to
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Mensah from Tulane got a 2 year deal for 8 mil to attend Duke.


That’s insane .
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
6910 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:27 am to
There's no way this Clearinghouse thing will work. Instead of coming through a collective, the collective will find 19 businesses and the athlete will use their NIL for advertising those business. It's just one more step but will be the same thing.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20928 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:31 am to
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Revenue sharing can't prevent individual boosters from dropping millions of their own dollars into someone they want.



You missed the part of where all NIL would have to go through a clearinghouse for fair market value...
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
5904 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:38 am to
then we will be back to extra $$$ under the table like the good old days
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14390 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:38 am to
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You missed the part of where all NIL would have to go through a clearinghouse for fair market value


You missed the Supreme Court part.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
75433 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:46 am to
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College football is slavery


I hope this is sarcasm.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6388 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 9:02 am to
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You missed the part of where all NIL would have to go through a clearinghouse for fair market value...


I already addressed that when someone else brought it up. I see no legal standing for a clearinghouse to do anything meaningful about this. I'd love for them to be able to cut down on this crazy spending, but reality doesn't appear to align with that hope.
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