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This is a major problem with the mega conferences
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:15 am
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:15 am
Just by way of lucking up into an easy schedule, teams like Indiana, Tennessee, & even Texas are guaranteed a playoff spot. The B1G will have at least 4-5 spots every season because the conference is so chock full of basement dwellers.
I understand the "you can only play who's on your schedule" but it seems so lame to incentivize playing nobody. The story about Cignetti choosing Indiana becuase he knew their schedule was so soft is indicative how badly there needs to be so.e reasonable adjustment for SOS.
I understand the "you can only play who's on your schedule" but it seems so lame to incentivize playing nobody. The story about Cignetti choosing Indiana becuase he knew their schedule was so soft is indicative how badly there needs to be so.e reasonable adjustment for SOS.
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:19 am to AlterDWI
It’s chalked full of basement dwellers?
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:20 am to AlterDWI
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The story about Cignetti choosing Indiana becuase he knew their schedule was so soft is indicative how badly there needs to be so.e reasonable adjustment for SOS.
This is dumb. He didn’t relocate and take a job because IU has an easy schedule in 2024. It may not be easy in 2025. What will he do then, find another job?
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:23 am to AlterDWI
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The story about Cignetti choosing Indiana becuase he knew their schedule was so soft
Literally nobody said this before the season. And you think someone is taking a long term job because of one season's schedule?
I do agree about conferences needing to balance their conference schedules. I was never for the expansion simply because of this. It was easy to see what was coming, and we all said how easy Texas's schedule was compared to OU the minute those schedules were released and we all cried foul, and it came to fruition. It happened in every conference this year and needs to be addressed.
But that Cignetti fan fiction being spread around after the game just doesn't hold up to any scrutiny and sounds like something some bitter CFB fan mad at the expanded playoffs said and everyone ran with it and I think less of anyone that actually believes it.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:34 am to AlterDWI
The SEC had 6 teams that finished ranked, not even including LSU, and Texas managed to dodge all but 1 of them? Thats a major issue with scheduling.
Texas is a good team, but they played 1 game against a ranked opponent (final rankings) in the regular season. They lost.
They’ve played 2 games against ranked opponents in the post season. They’re 1-1.
Texas is a good team, but they played 1 game against a ranked opponent (final rankings) in the regular season. They lost.
They’ve played 2 games against ranked opponents in the post season. They’re 1-1.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:46 am to TexasTiger08
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It may not be easy in 2025.
I believe this is correct for IU (though Oregon has a complete cakewalk)
Texas gets to play UGA, TAMU, and the bottom half of the SEC. Below Average team aside, OU going 4-4 would be a fair schedule.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:48 am to bisonduck
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It’s chalked full of basement dwellers?
Yes, the middle and bottom of the big 10 has been soft for a couple of decades. You can easily tell just by looking at how many games the top teams lose or have close games, not many. Most are over by halftime, much more than most power conferences.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 2:26 am to RB10
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The SEC had 6 teams that finished ranked, not even including LSU, and Texas managed to dodge all but 1 of them? Thats a major issue with scheduling.
Texas is a good team, but they played 1 game against a ranked opponent (final rankings) in the regular season. They lost.
They’ve played 2 games against ranked opponents in the post season. They’re 1-1.
You've basically made the argument why SOS is overrated now, and the losers on this board should stop caring so much about it.
Conference expansion has given us unbalanced schedules where teams don't even see half the league. Going 5-3 in a conference shouldn't mean more than a team going 8-1 in another league just because a bunch of mouthbreathers on the internet say so.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 2:45 am to AlterDWI
Conferences are way too big now and you can now easily craft a full conference schedule that avoids all the good teams in your league. That was almost impossible with say 12 teams max in a conference.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 4:16 am to bisonduck
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It’s chalked full of basement dwellers?
I mean...it's undeniable. When has Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, UCLA, Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, Northwestern, Indiana ever been contenders? Not in my lifetime. These are the same thing as rent-a-wins for the upper tier B1G schools.
You have a second tier of decent teams like Wisconsin, Nebraska, or Mich St who may have a good season here & there, but are zero threat to put together a national championship type team. So there's over half the conference right there.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 4:43 am to WaterLink
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Literally nobody said this before the season. And you think someone is taking a long term job because of one season's schedule? I do agree about conferences needing to balance their conference schedules. I was never for the expansion simply because of this. It was easy to see what was coming, and we all said how easy Texas's schedule was compared to OU the minute those schedules were released and we all cried foul, and it came to fruition. It happened in every conference this year and needs to be addressed. But that Cignetti fan fiction being spread around after the game just doesn't hold up to any scrutiny and sounds like something some bitter CFB fan mad at the expanded playoffs said and everyone ran with it and I think less of anyone that actually believes it.
Yup - Cignetti was hired on November 30th, 2023. BEFORE last season ended. If he really did say that about his schedule, he is in the wrong business and should be working on Wall Street. Keep in mind, the 2024 BIG schedule was released on Nov 2, 2023.
At that time, Indiana had the toughest 2024 conference schedule IN THE COUNTRY on paper!
- undefeated and CFP final participants Michigan and Washington
- one loss Ohio State
The top 3 BIG teams! No one would have predicted that UM and UW would end up being Meh in 2024.
Given Indiana’s history, 3-6 in conference play in 2024 would have been considered successful.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 5:20 am to AlterDWI
The conferences need to go back to divisional play.
You should have two sets of team in each conference who essentially play the same schedule. That doesn’t mean the divisions need to be permanent from year to year.
For the SEC with 16, I think four 4-team Pods is the way to go, with the Pods matched up into two divisions that rotate every two years.
(If you wanted you could redo the pods every say, 6 years too)
My next suggestion would be that you have your first seven SEC games completed against division foes only by Week 13. Week 14 could be the OOC/Bye week.
week 15 matches division A’s #1 vs B’s #2, B’s 1 vs A’s 2 and the other six teams in each division play a cross division game “as scheduled”. (If you were scheduled to play a 1
Or 2, you get the team they were scheduled to
Play)
The SEC championship then becomes the Winners of the A1B2 vs B1A2. Win is champ and gets the bye. The loser also gets an auto bid to host a 1st round game
You should have two sets of team in each conference who essentially play the same schedule. That doesn’t mean the divisions need to be permanent from year to year.
For the SEC with 16, I think four 4-team Pods is the way to go, with the Pods matched up into two divisions that rotate every two years.
(If you wanted you could redo the pods every say, 6 years too)
My next suggestion would be that you have your first seven SEC games completed against division foes only by Week 13. Week 14 could be the OOC/Bye week.
week 15 matches division A’s #1 vs B’s #2, B’s 1 vs A’s 2 and the other six teams in each division play a cross division game “as scheduled”. (If you were scheduled to play a 1
Or 2, you get the team they were scheduled to
Play)
The SEC championship then becomes the Winners of the A1B2 vs B1A2. Win is champ and gets the bye. The loser also gets an auto bid to host a 1st round game
Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:00 am to BradBallard
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At that time, Indiana had the toughest 2024 conference schedule IN THE COUNTRY on paper!
- undefeated and CFP final participants Michigan and Washington
- one loss Ohio State
So, basically Georgia's schedule, except they played two top 15 teams in USC & Tenn instead of Northwestern & Nebraska. They also scheduled two P4 teams OOC instead of Charlotte, FIU, & Western Illinois.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:07 am to nvasil1
Tennessee is another team that benefited from a very easy schedule.
There were nine SEC teams with both an overall winning record & a conference winning record.
Tennessee only played two of them
2 of 9
At the bottom of the SEC standings there were six teams. None of the six had an overall winning record, and all six had a losing record in conference.
Tennessee played five of them.
5 of 6
They also played a ridiculously easy out of conference schedule featuring two of the worst teams in FBS, an FCS team, and NC State (don’t forget they turned out to be a bad ACC team, but were actually ranked at the time.)
However, that early season cakewalk resulted in blowout victories that impressed voters enough to vault them near the very top of the polls. Even a road loss at Arkansas wasn’t enough to knock them out of the top 10.
There were nine SEC teams with both an overall winning record & a conference winning record.
Tennessee only played two of them
2 of 9
At the bottom of the SEC standings there were six teams. None of the six had an overall winning record, and all six had a losing record in conference.
Tennessee played five of them.
5 of 6
They also played a ridiculously easy out of conference schedule featuring two of the worst teams in FBS, an FCS team, and NC State (don’t forget they turned out to be a bad ACC team, but were actually ranked at the time.)
However, that early season cakewalk resulted in blowout victories that impressed voters enough to vault them near the very top of the polls. Even a road loss at Arkansas wasn’t enough to knock them out of the top 10.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:11 am to RB10
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The SEC had 6 teams that finished ranked, not even including LSU, and Texas managed to dodge all but 1 of them? Thats a major issue with scheduling.
Maybe the SEC had 6 ranked teams because all of them avoided a loss to Texas?
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:01 am to AlterDWI
Indiana, Northwestern, Iowa, Michigan State, and Nebraska all gave Ohio State a better game than SEC powerhouse Tennessee.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:03 am to AldousSnow26
So what? The programs you mentioned are doormats.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:27 am to AlterDWI
I happen to like watching SEC football but not many people outside of SEC states want to watch an SEC invitational every post season with half the playoff field or more being SEC teams.
I’m fine with attempts to keep an interest in college football national and incentivize schools who’s only real crime is they will never be afforded an invite to the SEC or Big Ten.
I’m fine with attempts to keep an interest in college football national and incentivize schools who’s only real crime is they will never be afforded an invite to the SEC or Big Ten.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:17 am to AlterDWI
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So what? The programs you mentioned are doormats
Man I'm loving this shite..
You guys aren't going to be happy until college football is 16 teams playing each other every year
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:18 am to AlterDWI
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so.e reasonable adjustment for SOS.
What needs to be adjusted? The sos rankings are just fine. Tennessees sos was bad. As was Indianas.
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