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Airline seats are too small and shrinking. why some watchdogs think that's dangerous
Posted on 12/19/24 at 10:10 am
Posted on 12/19/24 at 10:10 am
this has to be satire... LINK
yes seats are smaller than they used to be...that is a result to the profit pressure on the airlines. there is a break-even point on every one of those seats and on every flight. as in any for-profit business, the ideal would be less volume (fewer passengers) at above break even revenue (higher fares).
article goes on to blame greedy airlines and lack of regulatory oversight for this "dangerous" condition...and then uses this picture to illustrate the problem
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Planes don't just feel more cramped than ever — they are more cramped. There's also a growing realization that small seats pose a real threat to our health and safety. And while there are ways to beat the system, the ultimate fix isn't up to passengers.
yes seats are smaller than they used to be...that is a result to the profit pressure on the airlines. there is a break-even point on every one of those seats and on every flight. as in any for-profit business, the ideal would be less volume (fewer passengers) at above break even revenue (higher fares).
article goes on to blame greedy airlines and lack of regulatory oversight for this "dangerous" condition...and then uses this picture to illustrate the problem
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 10:28 am to cgrand
there is no way that man's arse can fit into that seat. If i was that guy in the middle I would feel obligated to ask to move seats. Can you imagine sitting next to that for hours?
Posted on 12/19/24 at 10:30 am to cgrand
Is he sitting on the arm rests? Middle guy should demand the use of his arm rest as that is the only perk of the middle seat 
Smaller seats are the real threat to our health and safety, not the rising obesity rates that make those seats feel more and more cramped.
Smaller seats are the real threat to our health and safety, not the rising obesity rates that make those seats feel more and more cramped.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 10:39 am to Weekend Warrior79
Americans are getting fatter and seats are getting smaller. I see no potential probems there at all. They need a Fat Section with bigger seats in the back of the plane that cost twice as much. All the fatties can sit together and wallow in their own misery.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 11:05 am to TTB
at every roller coaster in america there is a sign that says "must be this tall to ride". so at every jetbridge, put up a sign that says "must be this skinny to fly".
problem solved
problem solved
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 11:07 am
Posted on 12/19/24 at 11:49 am to cgrand
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at every roller coaster in america there is a sign that says "must be this tall to ride". so at every jetbridge, put up a sign that says "must be this skinny to fly".
They need those test seats like they have for rollercoasters. It should be well before they even get on the plane. If they can't fit then they shouldn't even be allowed to board. It will save the flight attendants having to deal with it on the plane.
Hell they have a thing I have to shove my carry on into to make sure it fits, why can't they have it for people?
Posted on 12/19/24 at 12:02 pm to BigBinBR
Posted on 12/19/24 at 12:58 pm to cgrand
This is not happening in first class
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:04 pm to BigBinBR
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Hell they have a thing I have to shove my carry on into to make sure it fits, why can't they have it for people?
Need to start making those bridges skinnier
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:31 am to cgrand
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the ultimate fix isn't up to passengers
Is there no responsibility on the part of the passengers to not be gross fat fricks?
Being an obese waste of space is probably more of a threat than a small seat to your overall health.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:39 pm to cgrand
That doesn't even look real wtf
Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:07 pm to cgrand
737 width specs haven't changed since the -100 was rolled out in the 1960s fwiw. Not bothering to look into the others, but I can't imagine there's a huge difference if one at all
This is nowhere remotely close to being true. I'm 5'10 210 with noticeably broad shoulders, and I have no issues. The only discomfort I have in economy is that I can't cross my legs
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Only 25 percent of airline passengers can now reasonably fit in seats, according to FlyersRights, a nonprofit organization that closely tracks airline seat sizes.
This is nowhere remotely close to being true. I'm 5'10 210 with noticeably broad shoulders, and I have no issues. The only discomfort I have in economy is that I can't cross my legs
Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:10 pm to cgrand
Every airline will allow a "person of size" to purchase an extra seat. Airlines simply need to establish a weight limit before the extra seat is required.
Today, if a flight isn't sold out, it's easy for an airline to accommodate a passenger stuck to one of these large entities, but people are often SOL if a flight is sold out
Today, if a flight isn't sold out, it's easy for an airline to accommodate a passenger stuck to one of these large entities, but people are often SOL if a flight is sold out
Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:29 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:while i would welcome the hilarity if they did that, a better way would be a size limit.
Airlines simply need to establish a weight limit before the extra seat is required.
airline seats are X inches wide. if you cannot fit in that seat, you need to buy two seats. if you dont buy two seats, and the flight is full, you will not be able to board (or will be removed from the plane)
Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:35 pm to cgrand
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Airline seats are too small and shrinking. why some watchdogs think that's dangerous
No Americans are too damn fat... Travel anywhere in Asia and experience bliss.
It blows my mind that airlines charge people extra for bags over 50lbs, yet they don't charge fatasses more to fly.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:15 pm to cgrand
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while i would welcome the hilarity if they did that, a better way would be a size limit.
airline seats are X inches wide. if you cannot fit in that seat, you need to buy two seats. if you dont buy two seats, and the flight is full, you will not be able to board (or will be removed from the plane)
That's great in theory, but in reality, most people won't know in advance if they are going to fit in a given seat. But they will know if they weight over 250 pounds (or whatever number ends up working best).
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:32 pm to cgrand
Are plane fuselages getting narrower? If not, where is the space gained by shrinking seats? I get the shrinking legroom aspect when they place rows more closely together, but not seats getting narrower. They can’t shove a 7th passenger into a row of a 737 by narrowing the other 6 seats.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:56 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:sure they will…the average coach seat is 17” wide. put two items of any kind 17” apart and see if your arse fits between them
most people won't know in advance if they are going to fit in a given seat.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 6:06 pm to Snoop Dawg
quote:I’ll defer to others but ive never seen a 4/3 seat row on a 737. What they did do is add a 4th seat to the middle row of larger planes like the 777 by taking an inch or so off each seat and shrinking the aisles
They can’t shove a 7th passenger into a row of a 737 by narrowing the other 6 seats.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:08 am to cgrand
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I’ll defer to others but ive never seen a 4/3 seat row on a 737.
Not possible... 737s are always 3/3 except for first which is 2/2.
Again, the seats aren't the problem, its the fatties
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