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A Constitutional Convention. Democrats fear it's coming ....

Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:07 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
40983 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:07 pm
WSJ: A Constitutional Convention? Some Democrats Fear It’s Coming.


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As Republicans prepare to take control of Congress and the White House, among the many scenarios keeping Democrats up at night is an event that many Americans consider a historical relic: a constitutional convention.

The 1787 gathering in Philadelphia to write the Constitution was the one and only time state representatives have convened to work on the document.

But a simple line in the Constitution allows Congress to convene a rewrite session if two-thirds of state legislatures have called for one. The option has never been used, but most states have long-forgotten requests on the books that could be enough to trigger a new constitutional convention, some scholars and politicians believe.

Some Democratic officials are more concerned than ever. In California, a Democratic state senator, Scott Wiener, will introduce legislation on Monday that would rescind the state’s seven active calls for a constitutional convention, the first such move since Donald J. Trump’s election to a second term.




It’s a long read, linked above, but a good one.

Things I'd like to see ratified and clarified:

1 - Strengthen the 2A

2 - Eliminate Birthright Citizenship

3 - Strict Voter ID Laws

4 - Strict Border Security Laws.

5 - Eliminate foreign money in our elections.

6 - Eliminate Lobbyists' Influence via donations, perks and family favors.

What am I forgetting?
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
189345 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:09 pm to
reparations

ERA


careful.. u wont like everything that could get passed by a State or 2 or more
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7211 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:09 pm to
Term limits for Congress.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11647 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:10 pm to
Term limits.
Posted by NoMoreKnees
Pulaski, TN
Member since Jan 2017
371 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:10 pm to
Entire country concealed carry reciprocity.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
15147 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:11 pm to
They've been talking about this for years. Thing that worries me is rhinos flipping and going along with dims to really screw some things up.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1450 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:11 pm to
I oppose a constitutional convention. Way too much potential for damage. A convention would allow for a total transformation of the Constitution along with the rules for ratifying changes.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7878 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:12 pm to
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What am I forgetting?


Term limits and no stock trading.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
7508 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:13 pm to
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reparations

ERA


careful.. u wont like everything that could get passed by a State or 2 or more


zero chance you could get 26 states to agree to reparations
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
7508 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:14 pm to
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I oppose a constitutional convention. Way too much potential for damage. A convention would allow for a total transformation of the Constitution along with the rules for ratifying changes.


A radical transformation of spending is needed.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
189345 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:16 pm to
I tend to agree with you but having the movement to get reparations because the constitutional convention is taking place

the States that would pass it Vermont Maine California Washington Oregon
maybe MN

Just telling you she'd be aware of the problems you may create before you create them unnecessarily

Since there's not a strict time limit to how long states can consider the proposed amendments it could lead to political problems that we simply don't need right now because we have a good shot at a twelve year run of improvements
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11647 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:16 pm to
Trump third term.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35752 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:17 pm to
Election reform:

No one outside the jurisdiction/district/precinct being voted on may donate (e.g. for statewide races, only registered voters of that state...countywide races, only registered voters in that county, etc)

Only registered voters may donate (no PACs/corporations or other artificial entity. Just real live humans)

Picture ID
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1450 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:17 pm to
Do it via the amendment process, not a convention.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
17011 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:19 pm to
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oppose a constitutional convention. Way too much potential for damage. A convention would allow for a total transformation of the Constitution along with the rules for ratifying changes.

I’m in favor.

I don’t believe the current structure is sustainable and if the convention fails to improve things states should consider taking steps to reduce the impact of the federal government on their citizens.

The current impact of a simple presidential election is too great in a nation so divided because the federal government is too powerful.

California should be allowed to be California whenever possible without it violating the rights of Florida or Louisiana, but the same is also true relative to the federal government.

Any other approach is denying the popular will of the citizens of each state, many of which would be top 10 or 20 economically in the world on their own.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
70609 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:21 pm to
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What am I forgetting?

Repeal the 17th Amendment and return appointment of Senators to Governors/State legislatures

Repeal the 16th Amendment, restore prohibition of the income tax, & replace with the National Retail Sales Tax (aka FairTax)

Institute House & Senate term limits

Prohibit lobbying for 10 years after holding public office, elected or appointed

Voter ID for all federal elections

Elimination of corporate/PAC contributions.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 3:24 pm
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
7508 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:22 pm to
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I tend to agree with you but having the movement to get reparations because the constitutional convention is taking place

the States that would pass it Vermont Maine California Washington Oregon
maybe MN

Just telling you she'd be aware of the problems you may create before you create them unnecessarily

Since there's not a strict time limit to how long states can consider the proposed amendments it could lead to political problems that we simply don't need right now because we have a good shot at a twelve year run of improvements


Maybe, but sometimes drastic actions must be taken. Right now, leftist judges have destroyed the integrity of the justice system. You cant make improvements when you constantly have the threat of activist judges nullifying laws that are passed. No voter ID law will be upheld in court because even the Supreme Court is compromised.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7808 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

What am I forgetting?


Overturn the repeal of Smith-Mundt Act …. make domestic propaganda illegal again.


Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95773 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:34 pm to
Scott Weiner is literal filth
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133471 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:38 pm to
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careful.. u wont like everything that could get passed by a State or 2 or more


Has to pass 38 state legislatures to be ratified as a constitutional amendment. That is a MAJOR hurdle. The point being, if it's a far left or far right proposal it's not getting ratified. Common sense proposals like voter ID and no birth right citizenship like almost every other nation in the world are pretty common sense.
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