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Hawaii lawmakers join Washington lawmakers in drafting bill to ban denial of claims
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:01 pm
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NEWS: Washington State lawmakers draft bill banning health insurers from denying claims. Incoming governor Bob Ferguson signals he will sign such a bill if it makes it to his desk.
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Hawaii speaker of the House Nadine Nakamura, citing last week developments in Washington state, throws support behind bill to ban Health insurers from denying claims. Bill closely mimics one supported by incoming WA governor Bob Ferguson.
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Health care costs would sky rocket
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Excellent, this will be a fantastic, localized experiment of what will happen if this is implemented nationwide.
I wonder if insurance companies pull out entirely.
Will the cost difference associated with this bill be subsidized through ACA?
I wonder if insurance companies pull out entirely.
Will the cost difference associated with this bill be subsidized through ACA?
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
What companies would offer health insurance in those states?
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:08 pm to tigerfan0082
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Health care costs would sky rocket
Insurance deductibles surely will.
Banning pre existing exceptions is why Obamacare policies have ridiculous deductibles. They put a $2,000 cap on out of pocket drug costs on Medicare prescription plans, and drug deductibles skyrocketed.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:09 pm to TigerintheNO
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What companies would offer health insurance in those states?
None, which is what they want. They want government run socialized medicine.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:10 pm to tigerfan0082
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Health care costs would sky rocket
If we are lucky insurance companies will go bankrupt and prices drop everywhere overnight.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:12 pm to tigerfan0082
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Health care costs would sky rocket
For shareholder profits to remain sky high, they'd have to.
Maybe drastic measures are the only thing that will blow up the entire bullshite though.
Anything government has done so far is negotiated with lobby of the worst offenders to protect their profit margins.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
One of the worst imaginable solutions to the healthcare mess. How are govts so incredibly full of stupid people?
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:14 pm to NYNolaguy1
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f we are lucky insurance companies will go bankrupt and prices drop everywhere overnight.
So, heart surgery would cost $50,000 instead of $100,000? And you think people are denied care now?!? lol…
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:16 pm to NYNolaguy1
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If we are lucky insurance companies will go bankrupt and prices drop everywhere overnight.
Is that how you think that will work?
You think healthcare will be cheaper if insurance companies are not involved???
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:18 pm to wm72
shareholder profits to remain sky high,
Maybe you should start a Health insurance company with your own money since profits are not anything you are interested in.
Maybe you should start a Health insurance company with your own money since profits are not anything you are interested in.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:20 pm to BugAC
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that how you think that will work?
You think healthcare will be cheaper if insurance companies are not involved???
If the middle man provides no value to the customer either in product or cost, and the middle man magically disappears, the customer benefits, no?
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:20 pm to BugAC
A hospital billed the insurance company for a heart valve replacement on one of our kinfolks.
That was the second heart valve replacement on that person that day, as the kin had died during the first replacement.
If the second claim hadn't been denied, it would have been so wrong.
That was the second heart valve replacement on that person that day, as the kin had died during the first replacement.
If the second claim hadn't been denied, it would have been so wrong.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It sounds good to normal people at first glance but the level of unnecessary BS that people are gonna claim is gonna go through the roof
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:22 pm to tigerfan0082
quote:yep
Health care costs would sky rocket
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:22 pm to CoachChappy
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None, which is what they want. They want government run socialized medicine.
They aren't that smart unfortunately. Everyone says, that. But I don't think its true. They honestly think the government can regulate private businesses and help make things cheaper.
When the entire issue of a private insurance industry being expensive is the massive government involvement.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Let these Dumbass Democrat states take care of their own stupid decisions and I have a feeling the Trump Administration will do just that. Hey you want a sanctuary city you got it but you will not receive ONE DAMN DIME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. See how long people in that state will still be in favor of it when they are paying for it. All this shite they do now in these states are reimbursed by the federal government with Biden in office.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:23 pm to NYNolaguy1
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If we are lucky insurance companies will go bankrupt and prices drop everywhere overnight.
Enjoy several hours of waiting at the ER after you cut your finger off because 10 common colds, 4 minor burns, and a broken tailbone got there first.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:23 pm to gdzgft28
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So, heart surgery would cost $50,000 instead of $100,000? And you think people are denied care now?!? lol…
There's a financial bottom line that will hit healthcare providers if demand doesn't keep up with the prices they have. If everyone is unable to pay due to high prices, prices tend to come down.
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