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President Trump promises to end birthright citizenship
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:25 am
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:25 am
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Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:28 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Way up on the list of 'non-critical ASAP' items.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:29 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
He won't get it but he should force the issue so we can get everyone on the record on where they stand.
Make them openly oppose it and get them on record.
No more two-faced camera work.
Make them openly oppose it and get them on record.
No more two-faced camera work.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:31 am to tiggerthetooth
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He won't get it but he should force the issue so we can get everyone on the record on where they stand.
I imagine 95%+ understand it's the law and accepted as much, with Supreme Court precedent. I don't get what you think will occur with people declaring they're not crazy or grifters.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:33 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Shouldn’t make promises that you probably cant keep. This is an issue that should be discussed down the line once you get the border under control. This will bring unwanted opposition to his immigration agenda when he needs the political clout on deporting and shutting the border..
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:34 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
We are about the only country that is stupid enough to allow this.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 10:35 am
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:37 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I have no problem with birth right citizenship but don’t cry about breaking up families.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:38 am to AU86
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We are about the only country that is stupid enough to allow this.
Exactly what Leftists say about the 2nd Amendment
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:39 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I'm struggling with the issues of which lies matter.
I am thrilled that Trump won, and think this presidential administration could be the most consequential, ever. But, how do you excuse the lie of saying you become a US citizen by putting one foot on our soil?
Also, I thought our side was the one that cared about the Constitution, yet he's suggesting that he can suspended the 14th Amendment through Executive Orders?
I am thrilled that Trump won, and think this presidential administration could be the most consequential, ever. But, how do you excuse the lie of saying you become a US citizen by putting one foot on our soil?
Also, I thought our side was the one that cared about the Constitution, yet he's suggesting that he can suspended the 14th Amendment through Executive Orders?
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:41 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Was also a little more reasonable an idea when we didn’t have cradle to grave welfare.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:42 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
There should at least be provisos that birthright citizenship only works if you are here legally with permission to work and a job secured.
I've heard lots of Russians travel over here last minute to make sure their baby has US citizenship. Not cool. Also not cool that people use it as an immigration tool, IE have a baby here after arriving illegally and get to stay.
I've heard lots of Russians travel over here last minute to make sure their baby has US citizenship. Not cool. Also not cool that people use it as an immigration tool, IE have a baby here after arriving illegally and get to stay.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:44 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Textualism up till you don’t like it.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:45 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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President Trump promises
Hes claiming he will do something he cant do.
Dont listen to him.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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Exactly what Leftists say about the 2nd Amendment
There is not a lot of difference between MAGA and Progressivism. Both are activist and collective.
I dont think any care for the constitution.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:47 am to IvoryBillMatt
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But, how do you excuse the lie of saying you become a US citizen by putting one foot on our soil?
This is not a factual statement and does not describe the current state of our citizenship laws.
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I thought our side was the one that cared about the Constitution, yet he's suggesting that he can suspended the 14th Amendment through Executive Orders?
There are grifters who claim that the 14A doesn't really say this and ignore USSC precedent, and this is oft-repeated within the MAGA echo chamber.
This will require a new USSC ruling eradicating prior precedent, which won't likely come until after Trump is out of office.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:48 am to tadman
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There should at least be provisos that birthright citizenship only works if you are here legally with permission to work and a job secured.
That will require a Constitutional amendment.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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with Supreme Court precedent
Which one?
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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Supreme Court precedent
It's not precedent. It's a footnote. Not even dicta. It's rubbish.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:51 am to POTUS2024
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